[Why Do You Boys Do It To Your Self?]

I'm going to be entirely honest and blunt with you here, but you come across as a condescending, patronizing, wanker. You're probably not, but given that you keep referring to everyone as boys thats how it appears when you read through what you've written. Combine that with you not paying attention to what people say and i think you can understand why you're receiving the slightly hostile responses.

So you've had an experience with a malfunctioning piece of equipment, it's no biggy. I had my maguras bled with oil once and the seal died in the slave and i replaced it. I'm not going to go around suggesting that all oil bleeds are bad. I've also had a water bleed for the last 2-3 years, in which it's been bled twice, maybe three times and i've had no problems other than a snapped pad retention pin on the slave.

I can't see where anybody has said that metal springs can't rust, or that there aren't springs inside the lever body. But many people have said that the spring in the lever will not rust if it's bled properly. I've not observed mine over time so can't say for sure but it seems a lot of people are working under some very big misconceptions.

Metal will rust when in contact with both water and air. If a brake is bled properly there shouldn't be air pockets in the line and as such it shouldn't be prone to rusting. It will probably rust over a long time, but in that time frame the brake will most likely need replacing anyway due to component-intensive the nature of the sport.

Someone also mentioned the way sunken ships rust. Again, this does happen but it happens over a very long time and most of the time the sunken ships being referred to are in salt water, which is much more corrosive than deionized or even regular tap water.

People wanting the best possible performance often choose a water bleed because of the way it acts and feels. It isn't just trials where this performance:longevity ratio is altered by the user, people overclock computers for more speed at the expense of a longer life, race car tyres are formulated for more grip over durability and even brake pads vary in terms of performance and life. At the end of the day people want different things and as such are willing to make informed sacrifices in order to gain what they want to achieve.

I don't think he said anything that justifies you calling him a 'wanker'. There's far too much needless abuse on this forum, and far too much pedantry regarding spelling and punctuation. Live and let live!

[Too Old? To Be Get Back Started]

24!! i'm 35 and have just started up again after about 8 yrs of not riding. good luck, and remember, you're only as old as the woman you feel

[New Old Boy]

hello from another old geezer

[If You Could Send 3 Parts Back In Time...]

Could i send back skills rather than bits? that thing where riders land on the front wheel first when gapping etc is the biggest change i've seen in trials since i started up again, no one did that years ago and it looks excellent.

[What Shoe And Pedal Type?]

nice flat shoes like airwalk one's or the various waffle sole vans and v12 style pedals.

[Faq: Is This A Good First Bike?]

Hello, as someone who has been completely out of the scene for years, I've no idea about the bikes around at the moment. Can anyone recomend some frames which are quite long. I used to ride a Kona which has quite a long top tube, and i don't really want a trials bike which feels too short. Cheers, Fletch.

[New Member? Introduce Yourself Here!]

Hello, I'm Fletch. I used to ride many years ago but got bored with it all and gave it up for the best part of ten years. I'm trying to get back into it, but it's all changed alot since 'back in the day'. First stop, new bike!

[Help And Questions]

Hello all, I used to ride years ago, and was thinking about starting up again. The whole scene has changed loads, and i was wondering if you guys could give me some advice. Firstly, i want to start by buying a frame and forks and using the bits of my old bike to reduce the initial cost. Do new frames still have v brake/magura mounts on them or just disc mounts? Also, is there any diffrence between frames with seats and without, or is it just down to personal preference? Can anyone recommend a frame and fork, not to expensive though. I used to ride Konas, so would like a frame which has quite a long top tube. Lastly, does anyone know of any comps in the south-east? cheers. Fletch

[New Membres Look Here]

so someone new posts something, and all you lot can do is take the piss out of his spelling and grammar?

[Comps In South (again)]

hello, i posted this a week or so ago, got a few replies and then my computer broke and now i can't find the thread. i was trying to find out if there are any comps in the south area, i'm in brighton. i haven't ridden for years so it would have to be a fairly basic standard. cheers again, sorry for the hassle.

[Trials Comps]

hello, i used to ride a few years back and want to start again for exercise/something to do etc. does anyone know of any comps in the south east?(i'm in brighton) probably needs to be beginer standard again. cheers all.