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Righty guys, thanks again for yet more advice! I haven't measured her up yet, primarily because it probably is a Long. Confirming that won't actually do me a favours! I bought what I bought, now I just gotta make do, whether its long o short!
As for the other stuff...
1) Chain tension
The chain admittedly is very slack, and for one reason or another I don't want to fit a sprung tensioner. What about snail cams? What are they, how do they work? Is their purpose to keep the chain taut? And in my case, is it the black thing with writing on it, visible in this pic:
2) Rear hub..
So how come my hub looks so terrible? Is it just very basic or something? Looked into the Hope Pro 2 you guys recommended.. pretty damn pricey!! Will have to find an alternative. Out of curiosity, is it easy to swap in a new hub? I'm more thinking about the spokes.. surely that's a damn difficult job??
3) Rear brakes
I'm guessing that lack of critique means that, as v-brakes go, the Shimano I have isn't a bad way to go, right? Because I'm thinking to save the £75 for the Magura set up and just stick with the Shimano.. especially as everyone is praising V set ups! but what can I do to make it more aggressive.. new pads I suppose? Would re-grinding REALLY help??
REALLY appreciate all the help!
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3 spelling mistakes in this thread thus far, and none of them were done by the OP!!
... oh England
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Excuse any obvious stupidity, but why are manuals indeed called 'manuals'?? Odd choice of phrasing in my opinion... if I had written the Trial Manual I would have called manuals 'rollies' or something!
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i grew up in Ealing and only moved out a few years ago. We have a family friend over there who does pretty decent house shares / bedsit arrangements. I'll find out for you whether she's got any available and more importantly, where abouts the house is.. i seem to remember it just being on a leafy road off Hanger Lane, but i'll check
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i detest green .. id rather it have been pink !!!
definitely go for the pink mate. Actually, pink might be a bit girly.. go for 'fuchsia'
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Just on a taste level (don't wanna get into the science and how bad it is for you stuff)... there's this one we drink out in Poland called 'Burn'... its a CocaCola Company invention, and its LUSH! Do give it a try when out in Europe.. sure I've seen it in Germany and plenty of other places
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THANK YOU for all knowledge and advice!
Its good to hear I have bought something reasonably good!A few further questions.
- So we know its an 04 Pitbull. The one here looks to have a slightly different joint of the top tube and downtube at the front of the bike, indeed all 04 Pitbull's I find have this slight curve up of the top tube which mine doesn't seem to have. Could it be that there were different versions? Or could it be dependent on the difference between the long and medium length frame? And we're not too sure if its a long or short frame... what do I measure to find out? I have done some research and apparently it should be either 1060mm (medium) or 1085mm (long) but what do I measure?
- I knew from day 1 that I want to change the stem to a slightly higher stem. Skorp, thanks for the suggestion about the 25degree 120mm stem and riser bar. Wouldn't BOTH a higher stem AND a riser bar be too much additional height? Or is it common practice to do this if you're tall? (I'm 6ft2). Also... would trialtech be a good buy? Or are they all the same?
- Brakes! What on earth are my front brakes??
I'm not complaining as they seem to work very well, but are they actually any good?Also, thanks to joea for the suggestion of rear Magura's... how do I go about fitting these? What do I need to buy? can I still use the brake booster currently fitted?
- Lastly, rear hub, chain, etc..
I certainly agree that the chain is very loose! Is it normal for the rear axle to have so many spacers on it between the sprocket and the fork? Is it because the hub is of incorrect size or something? Are there any drawbacks to fitting a sprung chain tensioner?
Thank you once again for all the help and advice and comments. I look forward to improving the bike whilst I improve myself
Went out again today, I'm slowly getting the hang of trackstands and starting to hop around the rear wheel while locking the front brakes up onto small curbs and stuff! Trying to lift the front wheel as of yet I have not achieved. I can launch into a wheelie (about a foot in the air) from near stand still to place it up onto a curb. But raising without propelling forward with pedal power I can't do yet.. but I'll keep trying
Anyway, the important thing is I'm loving it.. which is exactly why I bit the bullet and decided to finally buy one
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HA! At first, thought you were trying to highlight bad spelling! Then re-read the sentence and got the point
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It's a short 2004 pitbull, I know because I have got the long version of that frame.
Great
Thanks for successfully identifying the frame. I'm glad to hear its a short frame as apparently these are easier to learn on? -
Hi guys,
So, I joined a week ago and since then have acquired my first ever trial bike. I'm very much a newbie so don't know a lot about these beasts, so any comments would be appreciated greatly!
The main question really, is: what's the frame? Its definitely a Zoo of sorts, but is it a Piranha or a Pitbull? And what year?
In other news, I was out most of the afternoon yesterday practicing trackstands and stuff... never have I had a) so many blisters on my hands and
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appreciate the reply mate, id browsed through the locations bit and yeah sumit about the ldn eye was mentioned by a few lads so ill maybe take a wander down in the next week or so. keep yah eyes peeled mate cos once the bikes up and running again ill give yah a blast on here and we'll hook up for a sesh.
cheers again, chris.
dude... i'm a total beginner! but whatever, we'll have a sesh anyway.. sure if we put a message up on here we'll get some other fellas too.
oh, and here's a validation vote!
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Thanks! Look forward to exploring the rest of the forum and also finding myself a bike!
PS. I like your profile pic!
So, it only took a week or two and I have found, bought and collected my first trial bike!
I've been out about 3 times now, and slowly slowly getting to grips with the basics. I'm sure most people starting out have the same feeling though as I do right now.. knowing that your hands are holding something much much more capable than you! Ahh, I hope to slowly tame it though!
As for the bike, I don't really know what it is.. it's definitely a Zoo! Could be a 04 Pitbull, but could also be an old Piranha.. within a few days I'll post up lots of detailed photos so all you pro's can show your knowledge to tell me exactly what I have bought, what kit it has on it, and what you advise I change!
Oh, and I bought some fingerless gloves.. what a good move that was!
Update soon.
Over and out
AOK
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just getting back into trials after a long time out ( due to work) and just moved to woolwich, london.
looking for any info on good spots/locations to ride and anyone to ride with.
any replies would be sound, cheers!
chris.
hey chris.
unlike you I am a total newbie so it will take me a few weeks / months / years (!) until I'll be good enough to be fun to ride with.. but, once that (hopefully happens) I'd love to meet up with others in the London area. I think there's a monthly meet up, they meet by the Eye. Once you're validated keep an eye on the Rides/Location forum, I think they post there!
good luck getting back into it!
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I hope other newbies and non-newbies will tag along
I certainly will too! Only just started practicing as a total newbie 2 days ago so can't be too far behind you!
I'm starting out on a 26 though... trackstands are very very slowly seeing some sort of realisation. Contrary to advice, I don't find being on an upward slope any help! As for getting the front wheel up.. 2 inches???
Off to buy a helmet and some kneepads as I have already had a close call. Look forward to adding to this thread too! If you don't mind that is!
Let's keep at it
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No, each year had a slight revision.
It's possible he bought it from somewhere two years ago that still had an old one in stock though. Selectbikes sometimes have old frames in stock for a bit.
Fair enough, I'm just glad its not a totally different brand all together as we feared it might be! And lets be honest, at the price I paid, it can even be 6 years old and still be a good deal.. after all, all I'm gonna be doing with it for a very long time is learning to trackstand!
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I don't actually think it's a Zoo! IF it is, however, it's an 03 OR 04 pitbull.
spot on the money, worked out later that its an 04 pitbull... wasn't looking back far enough.
Seller claims the bike is 'just over 2 years old'... telling the truth? could it be possible that the pitbull frame went unchanged from the 04 design till the 07 design?
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Hello, i would like to show you our little new vid, made in Warsaw city.
Ciesze sie ze znalazlem ten vid! Duzo czasu spedzam w Wawie i uwielbiam tam zycie, tylko niestety troche mi moj slaby jezyk Polski daje klopot bo bylem urodzony w UK.
Zajebisty film.. dodaje cie jako friend zebym nie zagapil nastepny vid
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The pitbull design varies a bit year to year.
Hopefully it's not just some other balls frame...
Hmm, guess we'll have to wait and see. Haven't heard from him yet. I'm fairly sure its something from the Zoo family, in which case I'm not at all bothered! Whereas, if it isn't a Zoo frame, I just won't take it off him.. it was after all titled 'Zoo Trial Bike'!! The mysteriousness of this bike has me even more excited now
.. what definitely doesn't help is how pants the Zoo/Echo websites are!
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Yours is a pitbull, the pirahna started last year I think.
"here goes the newbie talking bollocks!"
i thought it was a Pitbull too, because the Piranha's are pretty damn expensive and I don't think they were around in 08..
but, I've looked at photos of every Pitbull i could find, and none of them seem to have 2 supports running up from the crankcase between the frame.
They all have 1, like this:
whereas mine has 2, like this:
.. a bit like a Piranha.. not claiming it's a Piranha (not at the price I paid haha!) but i don't think it's a Pitbull either
hmm..
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well i wana b different
and very wise of you!
what year is this Piranha frame? 2008 by any chance? I just bought a zoo on ebay and am trying to work out which model it is!
thanks
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Problem is that i live in Sweden. Wouldn't I have to come and pick it up?
In the swedish equivalent I couldn't find anything much, atleast not close to my location.
Always ask on ebay.. although my experience is with other types of items on ebay, sometimes, if you offer an attractive amount of $$$, people will go out of their way and post as far as Nigeria.. but maybe first go to the Royal Mail website to work out (roughly) how much postage to Sweden would be... remember, you could ask the seller to disassemble it to fit in a smaller box.
A few years ago I convinced a seller on ebay to arrange transport for me on a Vespa from Plymouth to London.. for £50
Tartybikes send internationally i think..
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So inspiring! Just came across your Spring 2010 vid too... amazing!!
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The geometry would be wrong, and not all frames have disc mounts.
Thanks for clearing that one up for me!
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Please do gun me down as required on this one!
On the subject of the 20 vs 24 vs 26 debate, it sounds to me like a lot of people suggest a 24 as being the best compromise for a beginner.. but then again they're fairly rare and expensive, meaning that newcomers like me end up buying either a 20 or a 26. So...
Why not buy a 26" bike, take off the wheels and fit it with 24" wheels? Then revert back to the 26s once you feel confident? The only issue I can see is with the brakes - the 26 frame will have brackets in the wrong place for 24inch rim-style (V-style?? pardon the amateur language) brakes. But what if you fitted disc brakes instead? OR is the reason no one does this because the frame is effectively 2inches longer than it should be so the geometry gets all screwed up?
I know there MUST be a reason why this is a stupid proposition and no one does it (or has ever suggested it!), but what is it?
Thanks
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hey spoke to the landlady today after dinner... all her rooms are taken at the moment!
sorry, but I hope you find something. If all else fails you could always consider living somewhere else nearby, like Wembley, Acton, Park Royal etc and then take the bus to campus.
Anyway, good luck