ТrialsRider
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6? Why not 6 years? 2-3 months average as far as I know.
And why should I be disappointed? Marino frames are sexy awesome now:
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Lol, geo piracy.
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Guys, what do you think about Ozonys Styl? Especially about geo?
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Call your mom and complain about bad Russians(FamilyBiker are Russian too?), lol.
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About geo, Mark, how Arcade rides(feels) in compare to alu Inspireds (Your black 2011 fourplay for example)?
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>different materials
Magic 4130 CrMo made from powder of the unicorn horn?
Design? What? 7 CrMo Tubes that costs almost nothing?
The only things to acquit price that high is:
1) Extra-extra-extrea-super-ultra-superiour cosmic NASA level designing and quality control.
2) Extra-super-duper-mega testing with paying salary to riders for testing.
Testing, RnD, taxes, you think other companies that produce frames don't pay for all that? Good BMX frames are cheap and superior strong. CHEAP and STRONG.
The main features of mass street-trials frames are:
1) Reliability
2) Geo
Even "chineese-shit" because frames that costs 170 pounds are pretty strong and reliable. And you can't beat physics. So Arcade may be just top frame like other top street/dirt frame in terms of reliability. Arcade can't be better, because of physics(metal fatigue) lol.
Geo is something you need to develope/try/change/try - yes, it can be pretty costly, but this process takes place in developing of any produced frame in the world.
About small quantity - pfff bull****. Especially for company that have so much experience, established ties with factory and their own RnD.
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Hello clitgerm. Nice to have all the negativity back, the forum mood was just starting to lift. Nice to see the balance restored
>negativity
No. I'm good and pretty positive person. And I have reasons to say what I say.
Just for example:
I am willing to let it go, in case that you wont bring the level down here in forum. Please phrase nicer. We are British. We drink tea, and we are nice in general
Every nation thinks they the nicest. About my English - yes, I need to rise it's level, because I like expression so much and can't say what I want to say nice.
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What?
I am kinda glad that you did not mention Omen bikes, because than it would be too suspicious
Stop this shit already. You saw what I ride. And I do not advertise anything(unlike some persons on here). You see freaking difference between marketing and selling your own parts that you don't need? Also I'm not selling anything in UK now and don't think I will. PayPal and postage cost makes it pretty unprofitable. So you can't blame me, LAWL.
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I'm not whining. I want adequate prices on trials market, that not even close to adequate. And I want it for people, and I want trials and street-trials especially to rise and to involve new people in (especially in Russia). With prices that high it's IMBASSIBLE.
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Blah-blah quality and stuff(all steel frames in the world(dirt/street/4x/bmx) seems to be complete shit and crap in front of god tier handmade Arcade made from super-duper cosmic CrMo mined on Krypton if we compare prices on Arcade and other steel bike frames), but why Ozonys Styl costs 900 pounds for whole bike(Even if we'll set same brakes/hope hubs and stuff it will still be pretty cheaper than an Arcade)? I'm afraid to imagine how cheap framset is and how much it cheaper than an Arcade.
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And as I said - 2 grands.
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This is trialtech-tryall-because-anyname cranks. You can order "FamilyBiker" cranks if you want and have enough money for ordering minimal party. Same situation as with other many parts in our "trials industry".
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ORLY? If something setted up on my bike - doesn't mean I ride it.
So, cranks are not SL. Echo TR front rim is very strong and I don't have any problems with this rims. What's wrong with TR pedals?
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You sound very much like our recently departed Russian friend. Life is what you make it, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer. That's just the way the system is set up. Get used to it, makes life much easier
>Get used to it, makes life much easier
I'm not complaining, I like my country because we have more freedom and less government control than in UK for example. I earn as much money as I want and live almost like I want. But when I see poor people I feel sad. I've done my life better and can do it even better than now, it's not so hard. But to turn things better in general (country/world) is much more difficult. But I think it's great to do something about it, to try to change things in whole world to better. f**k people that say "cluck-cluck it's IMBASSIBLE it's utopian".
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No. 160 cranks feels like shit and bike for kids. Now I have 170, later I'll try 175.
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Asking the reason for something, being given the reason for it, then asking who cares about the reason for something...
Are you sure you don't have an Omen frame?
I'm sure in one thing - I'm not an advertising whore. And I ride what I want. Brands may go and f**k themselves. If parts are good - I ride it, if not - I don't, and will tell the others that this parts are shit. I don't want to see shitty parts which lifetime with newbie style of riding is one month on trials market. Trials parts MUST be better, stronger and more reliable than MTB analogs otherwise their existence is meaningless.
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But we can f**k that "businass"es, aren't we?
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Fair play to them. If I could do something like that I would. I've noticed a lot of young ideological people on here crying about how corrupt big businesses are. One day you'll grow up and realise the world has never been and never will be the Disney movie you want it to be.
Lol. I realized that at the age of 10, and grew up in place, when some of British will just suicide I sure (place where is nothing, just nothing, there are no trials, no BMX, there are almost no bikes, there is no possibility for people to realize themselves, only alcohol and drugs - that's the only entertainment in that place + extremely high level of criminalization) lol, so what? This isn't about that, this is about what world people want to live in, about things people don't want to see in this world, and we can do something about it. Not just say "blahblah this world is shit and thats ok" and live like nothing happens.
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The real commission is not 2%. Last time someone sent me 500 pounds and I got only ~467 on my paypal account.
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All this talk about price, where do they sell the damn thing? And does anybody know a price or are just guessing here?
LOLWUT? Maybe you even don't know the geo? Price will be ~2 grands.
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Alright, I see you know much about Inspireds. How long is average lifetime of fourplay 2011 frames? Style of riding is pretty abusing (2m+ drops and stuff). And how easy is to broke fourplay hanger(it's CNCed as far as I know)? Just asking for myself. I pretty much enjoy the geo with 90x35 stem and TT HR and don't want to change this frame at least for year.
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Last marino frame I have lasts me for 2 years, and then was selled, then cracked (she was 3 years old), then rewelded and she is still alive.
Details about manufacturing and reasons of expensiveness - why buyers must care about that? I don't care. The only thing I care is to get high quality product for price as low as possible. So the Marino is competitor to an Inspired. The only reason I ride fourplay now - it was easier to buy and no need to wait for 2-3 months.
What shoud do street-trials frames and forks?
1) Be strong and reliable
2) Be not too heavy, but they are already not too heavy so.. this point is meaningless.
As far as I know Marino frames are pretty strong, so it's not just a good alternative - it's must buy (also if marino quality really rised up now and he don't mess the geo) instead of one bad thing - long waiting.
Well, if you want to buy Arcade - do it. But my choice is marino.
Also one thing I really don't like in my Fourplay - it comes with ONE hanger. WTF? Can't they put 3-4? This hangers is really custom and you can't get one so easy. I thing it's really ugly(considering the price of the frame) because you may have a big problems when you broke one.
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Can you tell more about that? Maybe I'm stupid or there are some alien technologies that no one knows about used in manufacturing of that frame? The only thing I can see is to pick some good4all universal geo that would be better than geo of previous products.
About quantity - yes, you're right. But Arcade frameset costs like top titanium custom frameset. The marino and others custom cr-mo steel framesets with same or almost same quality (CNC BB and stuff) costs ~300gbp.
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Seriously, you can buy 2 top-level street/dirt bikes for that price. And one more thing: steel is cheaper, so why it costs more than fourplay? No need to say something about RnD it's not an electronics. And there are usual tubes, nothing special. I like my fourplay(will like it more, depends on how long it lasts to me) but this is overpriced imo.
Such a hard choice (inspired arcade news and info)
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