right dont get me wrong here, i do actually have some sense. when i ride downhill, its always a full face and shins, if i think i need it then the body goes on too. for xc its shins and an open style lid, for freeride its either the bmx style 'p pot' lid or the fullface (get a decent one and your not restricted, have it fitted/padded properly and it wont move) but for street and soon to be trials, i do not, and will not, wear a lid... i hate the buggars quite some... untill i do some damage i dont plan to riding through durham city/newcastle/middlebrough or even redcar... you just look and feel like a complete pratt. but this isnt my idiocy i reckon i concentrate better without the lid for jumping about, the things are just offputting.