LEON
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Never been, but I did see Meshuggah last year, it'll be worth it for them alone. If you look up Meshuggah crowds specifically it's usually pretty tame, mostly people in awe, the weird time signatures and polyrhythms probably make it harder for your average person to follow and bounce correctly to.
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2 hours ago, Canardweb said:
Fashion is one's of trials' most underrated negatives. I won't even talk about wearing tiny shorts over lycra, but if definitely doesn't help for setups too. HS33 are not the best brakes for the backwards motion still every company only builds frames with HS33 as an option...
Trials? Fashion? Ha!
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After all the advice you were given last time you went and put the same weak caliper on the same flimsy adapter and got the same result? I'm stunned. Do you have money to buy a Saint brake every week but not £7 to buy a capable adapter?
At this point you deserve it.
Instead of questioning every experienced opinion you're offered, what about actually taking the advice? It's usually the same few people posting this topic and I contribute to nearly all of them. It's really quite a simple fix if you LISTEN.
Also, I have never broken a caliper or an adapter. Just saying.
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8 hours ago, AdamR28 said:
Putting bars back to a normal position helps a lot. Otherwise you need to have small girl flexibility to cope 🙃
This, it really doesn't benefit most people, they just see the elite do it and assume it's the key. I'm pretty sure it hinders most riders.
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On 5/11/2023 at 4:58 AM, Lomani said:
Hello every one!
I guess, that one rims not available any more. I can't find them in-stock, but from official page I see another 24 spank rims. This one rims will be good for street trial?
Please, help 😃
Had one briefly on the front, too skinny. Unless you weigh the same as a child and have your tyres at 50psi I'd avoid.
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No, but I promise it'll ride like shit. It was one of those trials/dirt jump/slalom/DH/drag racing frames that was good at nothing.
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You'd choose less power over a £5 adapter? I have never, ever broken an adapter. It's not something you should use forever anyway. I promise that frame will crack before a beefy adapter will.
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Cheers all. I do already have new valves, tape and sealant so it'll just be one insert, I'll try and get some closed-cell foam first and make my own.
I did have a stretched, rattly insert inside my other wheel and it was killing me to know it was just banging about sounding like crap, so I had to take it straight out and cut it down. So I'd rather avoid one that's prone to stretching.
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The modern Shimano calipers just don't seem up to trials related forces. But yes your adapter is awful too and allows a lot of flex. You could probably bend it apart by hand, imagine what a hard landing could do.
Hayes, Hope, anything with some meat on it.
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I forgot...
Best insert choice/price? I've seen the prices of some of the top ones and I'm not paying that for a piece of foam, but I also don't want dents. Is pipe lagging too soft?
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Cheers. I've used them for a while but only with tubes, and I have my tyres a bit softer than most who ride similar things. I've also got the Light Bicycle carbon rims and they're so good I was just worried The Spike 33s would be a bit skinny, mainly with 90 degree gaps etc. Sounds like it'll work though. I use inserts on the back.
I used to Love a Stiffy 40al on the rear but I just can't justify the weight. Hope's Wider rim looks good but again, too heavy.
I'm about a decade behind the trends and advancements so I'm just trying to get things as light as possible.
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Was it ideal on the rear though? Guessing you changed for a reason.
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They're not the widest rims, pretty minimal for street. Has anyone used them tubeless? I'd rather get wider rims if they're gonna cause tyres to flop about.
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44 minutes ago, La Bourde said:
I agree with you.
I think consistency in feel is more important that a solid feeling. If your bite point varies, it is really really annoying.
The cable actuated disc brakes of my street/trial are a little spongy. The HS33 of my comp trial not at all. But due to some dents in the rim, the rear HS33 bites sometimes sooner as I expect. It makes manuals or rolling on the rear wheel more difficult.
Too me, the solid feeling just allows you to be more confident - I admit I bought BMX cables and housing for my street/trial and it is one really good update, cause the rear brake was really spongy.
I have the impression that having a too solid/too firm brake also increases arm pump. Basically you have to be able to hold the same pressure while your hands/wrists are moving. Any thoughts?
Compressionless outer cables are a must on cable discs, or any cable brake.
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Might also be worth noting I've never had a Hope brake with even movement from each piston, there's always a lazy one. Shimano are the opposite, I can line the caliper up by eye, perfect pad spacing, bolt it up and it's perfect.
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4 hours ago, Mark W said:
Part of it is that the Trial Zone has a reasonable chunk more power so it will have more flex in comparison regardless of the caliper architecture. That said, to reduce weight they reduced the size of the fin that links the two sides of the caliper, so you have more flex as a result of that too. Not the ideal combo for lever feel...
This interview with one of Hope's engineers is worth a listen: https://blisterreview.com/podcasts/hope-on-their-new-tech-4-brakes-sweating-the-details-ep-122
It's principally about the Tech 4 brakes, and in it they mention about the Tech 4 having a spongier lever feel 'in the car park' due to the extra power it has, but believing that it was less noticeable on the trail as you never pull the brakes when you're actually riding compared to standing over your bike. I think there's an element of truth to that for trials too. Obviously there are higher peak loads for trials than there are MTB, but even so I think flex is often less noticeable in use than it seems when you're just standing there. I'm definitely more of a fan of a solid feeling brake for riding, but there is generally going to be a trade off between feel and power unfortunately.
Some are better than others though, and I do agree with you about the Trial Zone lever feeling a bit wafty. Also not a fan of the creak either, which I assume is brass barrel/lever blade/pushrod related?
I'm definitely a fan of heavier, stiffer calipers if that's a big contributing factor to flex. I love the feel of Shimanos, but there are several other factors I don't love which means they're not an option.
Listening to the podcast now, pretty interesting yeah, I'm guessing master cyliner pistons can't go much smaller than the new 9.5mm until they start to bend/flex?
Also we're probably all using Jitsie/TT pads which I'm guessing are softer than mtb focused compounds. I recently upgraded to full Goodridge braided hoses on both bikes and I did notice a slight increase in stiffness, on HS33s I actually found the opposite, plastic hoses always felt stiffer to me.
With the TZ lever, and also old Tech and mini levers I've lubed the pushrods, brass barrel, every contact point around there and I got the creak to temporarily go but it never lasted long. I'm pretty ocd for greasing things and making them smooth and quiet but I gave up there, seems like a design issue or too many moving parts and contact points, this TZ lever was 9/10 condition too. I have four Tech 3 levers of varying ages and they're all silent.
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That chart is really cool too, never knew any of that!
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My Tech 3 E4 front is absolutely Rock solid, the Tech 3 rear on Trial Zone Caliper on the same bike is a bit soft by comparison. Every Hope brake I bleed I always take the reservoir cap off at least twice, a few days after bleeding it to pump every last bit of air out of it, it does make a difference.
I can see my TZ rear Caliper flex when I pull the lever, the longer, lower E4 doesn't do this.
Also, I had a Trial Zone lever very recently, didn't like it, felt very flimsy and had that stupid creak you get on the lower end and older Hope levers. Tech 3 are better in every way except weight.
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Nice one, cheers! Yeah I'll have a read of that in a bit. The Bore cap does look unnecessarily big. It was a full Tech lever rear brake with braided hose for £50, can't complain, I did havean X2 to try but heard it's basically the weakest one.
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Nice, so are they pretty similar? Any reasons the Trial Zone is better for trials other than pad choice?
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Anyone ever used one for trials? The pistons are massive compared to a Trial Zone, and I read a lot of mountain bikers saying they're overkill.

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I have a rear Pro 2 ss/t with the same crack, used it for over a year with a 203mm rotor, tightens up fully and has never gotten worse. Don't worry about it.
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After two rides I have a bearing that needs replacing, cool.
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I have a Tech 3 E4 front and Tech 3 Trial rear, both set up and bled as perfectly as I can, the E4 is noticeably firmer. I'd love some Tech 4 levers but just can't justify the cost. Good to know they're another step up though.
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Bloodstock
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Also, one of the best live bands I've ever seen (Skynd) are doing Bloodstock. Well worth a look.