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Oooo Echo Control looking...nice
Whats the frame spec then
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BITCH FEST APROCHING
Please use the search. CRM's as has been said along with Koxx rock and do the job. Heatsinks too.
USE THE SEARCH
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New Echos are two paws at one time engaded...weak i think but yet to have a gander at one
Kings are fine mate but you gotta look after it.
Profiles cheap and comen but are dam good on a mod
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Weight is a mear issue boys
It'll imporve you breaking laods and loads.
Disc a full on soild feel is achived and once bleed right wow!
Mags yeah i gotten good resutls and thats been with maggy stuff..hope stuff is ment to tbe the dady for it!
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It's been done mainly with STD MAGURA ones for the evo system. You can mod a EVO booster to fit the top 2 bolts of a 4 bolt system.
You indeed can run 2 RB if you wish on you Zoo. You'll need longer bolts and some spacers. Use an old chain, split up and use the rollers as spacers. they fit the M4 bolts perfectly mate.
The reason Zoo crack there is the frame weak there, metal fatige, over wleding/heat and well nothing to do with a booster cos if anyhting that just allows it to be pulled directly off now!
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The above are really what i'm after.
Before anyone asks yeah i have asked pace for some and they don't sell them cos Pace are wankers. (i've my reason for clalin em that, messing up on ym credit card and then not fixing my forks)
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Yeah but you'll smash pedal so why bother with nice spinning ones...i crack my pedals loads. Go v8
V8 has a nice sound than a v12
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Koxx red, Plazmatic CRM fin!
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O-leavel ta
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If you don't like the bikes, don't by them ! Nobody is making you ride an Echo/Zoo!/whatever. Why is it even an issue, since you're such an expert at building your own frames?! (Y)
x Dani x
Umm see what bitch put....thank you.
Pete's getting beat by a girl. AAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA. OWNED. And Pete learn how to read the English language, she didn't say you did ride, she said you don't have to ride said type of bike. Meaning that you don't necessarily ride said bike, but also no-ones forcing you into buying one.
Pete's not getting his ass beating ta. Umm I took English, English Lit, English speaking & listen ta and all passed cheers. It wa sher manner of saying it and knew exactly what she said said.
Oh and Dani leats have the balls to speak in english than dutch or what ever.
Вы теряете, yipy kahy f**ker мати just to have it back at you
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Koxx Lb with internal headset, didn;t see many sold but then agin it look doggy and stuff....baislcvy shit!
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Nuff said
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It's not the manufacturer that's 'overcrowding' it's the buyer that chooses the frame after all. People must keep buying them for a reason! Supply and demand.
What's the point in Heinz having 57 varieties? They offer different frames to suit different tastes etc...
What!!!!!!! How the f**k does that work out. deg's there yeah with these new companies yeah and his banging these frames out. There out there in the market now thats the point im making. he's over populatiing the market. Not the rididng sceen as non are being ridden as such but the market for buying is now full of shit basicly from one man.
I never said you had bought an Echo frames, I just informed you that nobody is forcing you to do so!
You did say i had ta. Re-read you post.
Also, it was the Coustelliers that contacted Deng, a couple of years ago now, and asked him about building them some frames. Deng sent them a Pitbull prototype, the Coustelliers took it to some guy in france (the guy that builds the Atomz frames) who built the prototype Coust frames (if you look carefully at the original bikes the brothers rode, they are different to the production frames). The Coustelliers then rush their frames onto the market. FACT.
Didn;t know that but the evidence thats out shows they brough theres out earlyer and that they desinged it. i know a fe wof the guys at Atomz. Not bad bunch. yasecs use to work there.
Plus there's still nothing preventing anyone else from going and ordering a bespoke bicycle. Deng isn't exactly standing outside Clive Leeson's shed with a big stick stopping them!!! But even Lance Armstrong doesn't ride a custom frame. He's on the same factory ride as the rest of his team.
No it's not what i said ether. I ment keep it simple, bespoke desing not laods and loads of frame out there all the same pretty much or from the same little factory.
I think i should do some digigng and get price on each frame cost to make and ship. When i check on pures i was sick knowing it was under £15 to be made and shipped to the uk and thats with customes sorted to!
x Dani x
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X Dani x
Whats the point in banging out loads of frames yeah from one guy...he'll run out ideas and it's overcrowding the market and they are all bit of each other etc. It's silly really really is.
Keep it Leeson, Bespoke
Yeah i ride a Coust they were the 1st with it out and im happy to ride one but i'd rather ride my own creations that mass produced stuff from just a money hungry thug in China thats making the sceen look really bad
Oh and have i bought an Echo...erm nope only a Zoo and thats way weay backl when was a decent guy not a money hungry thug
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Well clearly he don't give two shit to what he has there does he as he's totaly negletd it and now look. So i think in that case i can point and laugh.
I advised him as it's said so many times on her with and with middleburn locking rings too. So as much as i may ''lie'' your yet able to prive me on it i still advised the boy in the right what John
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Yeah you can but the fatige rate is dier as these aluminum frames will have to be uber thin and then will flex laods like steal ones.
Ti can be thin and light but lot less metal fatige and yeah some flex but ti you can work the flex out of it steal and alloy nope
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What exactly help what?? Need to be a bit more in depth, sorry.
Why well he knew it was lose and dind't bother and now wanders why it's broken and what not. More fool him and we can laugh at his dismise and no doute of futre events due to his lack of care. Now you see our point of resioning? Good lad, though so
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Cos and i'll admit im an impancent f**k (Brisa says it and he's true) and i piss people off as i type to fast and can't spell etc.
I really want to have full use of the site and stuff...temptation is there to start a fresh new acocunt etc...but i duno.
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Well then your gonna have to beg at mumy and dady's feet then for a new en aint you.
Thus time use thredlock and do it up tight and check you bike before every ride and after.
Your no smart ass or the 1st but growing up and havin comen sense will be a good place to start matey boy.
Good luck for latter life > ''the wheel just came right off the side of the car, umm maybe i should of tightened up them bolts like dady use to say'' <thus maybe well be aproching you my son! Bewarned
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Something i'd like to see
4 bolt clamps built into the frame, ie: lower base clamp being one unit of the frame, thus being a cnc part.
Rear dropouts going DH bike style of bolt in.
BB/yoke all one unit and 68mm being no more. 73 being what 68 is now and 85mm and more the main new std.
Head tubes to stick at 1 1/8'' or go Onza style of being an internal but then running shit hot cups to run a std cuped 1 1/8'' headset
BB rise in and 0 rise abolished
Decent materials used
More british built bikes or europen non maericans or ti or chinses (deng!!!!)
Real warrantys
Limations on how many names of companies and frame one muppet can produce. (no name BUT DENGs)
Think that'll do for now!
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Noz - alright mate!!!!!!
King headset is doing me proudly mate. I havent bothered to service it as it feels lovely and fine to me. Cheers dude. This man is a very relaible for a sale.
Forks well hoping now to go to my carbons if dropouts can be drawn up and made..check topic in NMC
If i get fatty's when i get an e-mail telling me how much Dave wants em to go for and the pics then i can get on form there init.
Probs have gloss black, be nice.
Rim, it's an Undrilled Ronnie from Adam @ Tartybikes. There slightly cheaper but uber stiff and strong. 50gm weight differernce tops.
Your post make no sense mate above. They still make em yes but they have changed them a bit. Your hard pressed to get any as CAD europ have non in stock yet
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if he is i'll buy deng out! Why cos i want some f**king ore for my self and the rate Deng's knocking stuff up they'll be non left
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6061, 7075, HE30 i duno, depends what they got but it's a machine shop so it'll be very good and soild and hard ass stuff. If it's steal again bar stock, HR4, anyhting but it'll be strong as hell.
Say 32mm from the center of the carbon tube, so thats 16.8mm for half the tube and 15.2mm so make it mm. 15mm of rake basicly
Each leg is 33.6mm OD
Width OD is 160mm
Width ID between each leg for hub per say is 92.8mm
So need the dropouts to space over 13.6mm from the dead center of each carbon tube on both sides to make it 100mm between each.
75mm is the height/deepth/length of the dropouts that carbon tube will be sititng in. It can be less than 75mm if you wish but no less than 44.45mm
Oh by the way i think a cool little ''OD404'' on the side of em would set em off a treat and if you did do them and i was able to have em made er i'd get it done.
Bbc Spotlight Tonight 6:30pm
in Beginners Trials Chat
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BBC Spotlight tonight 6:30pm, I'm on it!!!
It's soemthing to do with the amount you earn and being able adffored housing these days for us young ones. Morgatges etc....
Random way it's come about me getting no there but yeah i'm gonna be on there! So theos local to Devon shall see me Mr Pete® Wright
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