thanks again and also for the tips i did the site on a notebook with photoshop and a text editor over a weekend. i have so many projects that i usually come short myself but it serves it's purpose. as far as observedtrials: i think it's fair to leave all sites uncommented or comment them all and that all i have to say about that. i would like to say that i am impressed at the quality of information offered at trials-forum and thats no ass kiss. oh and i love the integrated spell checker that works on osx