I used to have a shogun gimp in 2006. I really liked it ,but it was quite heavy. It was easy to swing the rear end about and was good for balance. I personally would say you should get an onza. They're lighter. Try and get hold of a second hand t-pro, maybe an 06 or something. It will cost about the same as a new t-vee, but it has got magura hs33's and has a really good geometrywhich is good for learning everything on. I've got an 03 one and I love it!