Le @ Tnn Engineering
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I saw rowans proto v pads..... any idea if and when these are likely to go on sale?
I'm working on them right now and they will be available with the awesome LGM refills.
So 1 to 2 weeks.
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Will the refills be suitable for phat pad backings?
Can't answer that but Tarty's will stock refills and backing later this week.
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Tarty's will have all my brake products in stock later this week. Complete CRM,LGM,both refills and separate backings. So no need for cross breeding pads and backings.
Also these pads last so try a medium grind for maximum performance.
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I think i will have to change my order to the LGMs
even if they are a bit more expensive
ill have to give tarty a ring tomorrow
Same price!
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Are they good ona smooth rim?
No one knows yet. But they'd almost last forever on a smooth rim.
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Will do ma'friend
I hope they will meet the hype that has been brought to them
Cheers for the information mate
but i dont know whether to change my order to the LGMs (my order isnt to come until the 5th of June as i am having my wheel built aswell)
Can you advise me on whether i should change these?
- Do the LGMs have better bite and hold in the dry than the CRMs?
- Will they last for a long time on a medium grind?
Tarty's will have them in stock in about 2 weeks.
- Do the LGMs have better bite and hold in the dry than the CRMs? OH YES
- Will they last for a long time on a medium grind? YES as far as i know none of the test riders have worn out a pair yet.
Le.
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Just like to announce. That the all new TNN LGM have been released in complete pads and refills.
As tested by and loved by all of TNN test rider including Stan and Ali C.
The LGM is very different to the CRM. Where the CRM give excellent modulation with great hold the LGM is a raw power pad with excellent bite and holding power.
Also works well in the wet. http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....howtopic=136397
CRM refills will also be available and TNN backings separate as well.
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Keep an eye out for the new LGM (green) compound out in 1-2weeks.
As tested by Stan and Ali C.
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In the end i went for the New TNN pads for various reasons...
- They were the most popular in the vote and had the best feedback
- Tarty stock them and they will get delivered rapidly
- The other places i could have brought the other pads both needed me to use paypal and when trying to link my card i fail and it locked it
Great choice mate!
Tarty's has just made the first order for the LGM compound the Stan and Ali have been riding. In complete pads and refills. Basically they will stock my complete range of CRM,LGM refills,complete pads and backings.
Just to give everyone the heads up here my quick review on the CRM vs LGM.
CRM Yellow Excellent modulation with great holding power. Slightly spongy lever feel. Dry weather pad.
LGM Green Excellent bite excellent holding power. Firm lever feel. Works in the wet.
Le.
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Great editing! With some brave line nice work guys.
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Oh my god I was sooo close!
We all felt sorry for you in the workshop. Being soooooo close but 0.01 grams out. bummer!
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If it comes loose again use some mild lock tight on the lock ring and a little on the spline itself. This will stop any movement and loosening of the lock ring.
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It's strange reading reviews about the CRM PADS pads been REALLY LOUD. When I'm using them there pretty quite. Anyone else got quite TNN CRM'S??
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Nice work Stan. Seems like the new compound is working in the wet???
The vimeo description appears to say TNN LGM - these are a green colour and different compound to the CRM (yellow)Good call!
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cnc backing because they are solid and all the force is pushed in to the pad
but yeah plazmatics are cack in wet
Just letting everyone know that Stan and Ali C are currently testing a new green compound (LGM) which does perform in the wet.
Some of Stan's comments on the new compound.
Today I rode a quarry in typical UK weather, which is heavy showers and wind and it was a good chance to test the Green compound in wet conditions. Happy to say it was very good indeed. The sticky-ness to the pads seems to help the wet weather performance. Can't fault this compound at all.
Regards, Stan.
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My Phat pads have fallen out the backing
How do I put them back in?Like what type of glue ?
Most people used plain super glue but a toughen super glue is much better. Loctite 435 is excellent. Clean both part well using acetone or similar product and dry. Use just enough glue to lightly coat the mating surfaces. Once you have glued both put the braking surfaces together and lightly clamp in vice or something similar.
This will give you carefree braking and more importantly the confidence to go big.
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So same material as the Plaz CRMs.
The Plaz CRMs did NOT work in the wet AT ALL!
But this video they seem fine when wet, so what's going on there then?
It's the same as the original CRM.
Your right the old CRM aren't a wet weather pad.
The pad tested on the video by both of us is a prototype compound suited to all conditions.
Mud,dust,wet and dry it's a great all rounder.
But were still looking for something better.
the ol' pad contact wear test thing isn't really very representative of the real life of the pad is it...? Braking isn't only in one direction... at least they're trying though- they're filling in where heatsink (seems to have) left offgood stuff.
That's a valid point you have there.
But the test is purely to show that the pad will hold together under extreme loading. And perform at 100% until the pad compound is completely worn out. The plastic backed pads don't perform so good. They tend to flex alot and are prone to uneven wear.
Nothing worse than having a pad fall apart. We have had this happen when testing other pads.
Are you using a grind or smooth / dead grind, i am interested in getting some of these , i am very impressed !
Adam
Mate for the CRM's I recommend a light to med SHARP grind works best for locking power and still offers some modulation. If you like more modulation run a near smooth rim and you'll have heaps.
They're just CRM's with CNC backings aren't they?Correct!
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Any updates about the materials being available seperately?
Hey Guys,
Just so you know we've decided to supply refills for our backings. With detailed instructions supplied.
You can expect them in store long before you wear out your original TNN CRM's.
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Hey Guys,
Just so you know we've decided to supply refills for our backings. With detailed instructions supplied.
You can expect them in store long before you wear out your original TNN CRM's.
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Results are in the pads weighed 21.33g
UK: HDMACKAY with 21.66g
USA: EDGE 21.4g
AUSTRALIA: SETHGUN 20.92g
please correct me if there has been any mistakes here.
For the winners PM me your address and I'll get these in the post.
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Hi guys
Due to a small delay getting this post on the forum I'm gonna ex tend the competition until Sunday night.
Good luck.
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Hi guys
If you want some extra info on the pads and CRM compound history. check out http://tnnengineering.com/15701/index.html
Re fills are currently unavailable but the CRM compound is very long wearing. But if demand is big enough we may reconsider refills.
The reason why is. Our gluing technique is so strict.
The backing cavities are sand blasted for superior adhesion.
The pads are roughened on the glued faces.
Both are ultrasonic cleaned and glued together with a toughened super glue under large pressure 50kgs+ until totally dry.
Because of our strict gluing procedure we can guarantee the pads won't separate during riding. It's purely for safety reasons. I'm sure saving 10 pounds on a set of pads isn't worth a brake failure and possible serious injury.
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Giveaway TNN CRM pads are finally here!
It's been a long wait but there here the TNN CRM. The same CRM compound poured by the same people the same company by the same machine for the last 10years. Made with the help of plazmatic pads manufacturer Chris Russ. Along with other like Adam Read,Stan Shaw,Ali C and others.
To celebrate were having a give away.
Three pairs
One for Europe and surrounding areas.
One for USA and surrounding areas.
One for Australasia and surrounding areas.
Rules are simple be the first to guess the exact weight (or nearest guess) of 1 pair of TNN CRM pads to two decimal places to win. Followed by your country.
One guess per person.
EG. 75.38 grams Brazil
Competition ends Friday 8th of May. (approx same time they'll be in store) Winners announced following Monday.
Click on link for images.
http://tnnengineering.com/15701/index.html
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A question about the booster if you will.
Im assuming you have relieved the brake clamps around the bolt hole in order to sandwich the carbon plate, have you found that this is stiffer than the conventional tube and spacer arrangement?
I guess that it will give less resistance to torsional loads along the length of the chainstay but give more resistance to the chainstays spreading? Interested in doing that on mine if it does make it a touch stiffer
Yeah the mounts have been machined down to suit the carbon booster. To be perfectly honest I can't feel much difference in stiffness compared with the std tube spacer and longer bolt set up. But in theory it's the best place to have it (in line with the center line of the slave cylinders.) This gets rid of any bolt flex due to long bolts and spacers. But I recon it's much better than the old skool booster set up and does have it's advantages. Less weight,less parts,easier to set up and cleaner overall look.
The booster is pretty useless it's to light (28g) and the quality of carbon isn't high enough to do a really good job. But I've designed a tool (kinda like a BIG pair of over sized reversed pliers) to preload the booster outwards before clamping it in place. So the booster is under constant tension i found this made the biggest difference by far. The reason it works so well is it removes the initial flex out of the booster and gets the booster into it's stronger/stiffer range. Up there for thinking!
New Tnn Lgm (green) Pads And Refill Released.
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Just letting everyone know TRA has been testing the awesome LGM compound and the TNN backings. His decided that these pads bite and hold better than any other pad his used. TRA joining the TNN team ?????