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  1. Help A Brother Out…

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    no worries, happy to of voted for you ferrero.

    everyone else i voted for in the other categories was female, so hopefully if you all get your pictures taken together at the end, youll be surrounded by poon tang, in a largely male dominated awards ceremony.

    Hahaha I love this :D

  2. Help A Brother Out…

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    Posted · Edited by Bronz

    Hullo all.

    I was gonna pop this in the Design Thread but that’s not quite the right place.

    Basically, I know I’ve helped a few people out on here with web design/development related stuff from time to time, and I was wondering if I could reign in a favour in return…?

    The long and short of it is that .net magazine, the web industry’s leading publication on all kinds of geeky shit, runs a yearly competition that covers the entire globe. I’ve been nominated for the Brilliant Newcomer award, so I was wondering if you lovely TF guys and gals I may have helped could spare a wee click over on the voting site?

    Link: http://www.thenetawards.com/

    Cheers all, much appreciated :)

    H

    EDIT 1: Oops, guess I should have said I’m Harry Roberts haha.

    EDIT 2: I was intending only people I’d helped out to vote, but thanks to all who have :)

  6. The Design Thread

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    Posted · Edited by Bronz

    Yessir.

    That is a solid idea though, the social hugging thing really shows through; that’s something that is unique and totally fifty6’s :)

    More ideas is good too, cos that can 1) make you find an even better one or 2) reinforce your confidence in this one :)

    Sorry about any misunderstandings earlier dude, this is coming along nice :)

    H

  8. The Design Thread

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    You have the advantage of numbers in your brand, which itself is more unique than a lot of logos out there.

    You just want humble, unique, simple, memorable. Nothing fancy, nothing that tries too hard.

    Get inspired! http://dribbble.com/tags/logo

    This is the guy who I get to do my branding, his portfolio has some nice stuff in that can hopefully get the creative juices flowing: http://bryanjamesdesign.co.uk/ He did the http://inuitcss.com and http://hry.rbrts.me logos for me.

  9. The Design Thread

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    Posted · Edited by Bronz

    Better analogy (maybe), those little auction shops you mentioned - they always look gash for doing what you describe. But would a website that was about how to hunt out the best deals and how to sell well on eBay be as bad for using one of the letters, or the same sort of jumbled up letters and colours? Surely that's just a better way of illustrating what you'll get from the page?

    Forgot to address this bit. If I saw that and it was a how-to-make-money-on-eBay site I'd be well suspicious. First off the content of the site (but that's not important here) but also the fact that their logo is so obviously unprofessional would get me suspicious right away.

    Translate that thinking to your company and you need to think that, sure, a lot of your clients won't be as design-snobby as someone like me, but then remember that people like me (web designers) are quite likely to be on the lookout to recruit/outsource a social media guy to satisfy their own clients' demands. This is when a logo/brand would be scrutinised by designery folk, be that consciously on subconsciously.

    Design agencies and the like might not be on your client list now, but that's no reason not to cater to them with your branding.

  10. The Design Thread

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    Posted · Edited by Bronz

    Cheers, I'm glad you did that rather than either shut up or carry us down the same road. That's some good advice.

    Let me explain the piggybacking a bit - my thinking around using the facebook f and twitter t was that I'm not running a social network. Think of it more like a football website using a football for an o - they aren't trying to piggyback on the sports success as such, it just illustrates what they're about (worst analogy ever but I'm sticking to it). I'm not trying to run a social network, so piggybacking them isn't getting me undeserved brand recognition, it's merely saying social networks are what I do.

    Better analogy (maybe), those little auction shops you mentioned - they always look gash for doing what you describe. But would a website that was about how to hunt out the best deals and how to sell well on eBay be as bad for using one of the letters, or the same sort of jumbled up letters and colours? Surely that's just a better way of illustrating what you'll get from the page?

    I'm debating with myself as much as with you - that's why I wanted to ask here because I knew I'd get some good critique and food for thought.

    tl;dr I basically saw your logo and thought 'Twitter!'. That is the last thing you want a logo to do—make a person think of another company.

    I do get where you're coming from, but to me it's too obvious, too easy, too unoriginal. If I saw a football club using a football for the O I'd see it as being a bit, well, tacky.

    If you* want your company/brand to be remembered then it's better to use something unique, rather than using a brand element that people associate with another company (even if they're not competitors).

    Classic branding/design faux pas; client says 'I want my site/logo/etc to look like xyz', designer replies 'If you want to be remembered for being you, why try looking like something that's not you?'

    If 56 is (and I know it is) a small, homegrown company, you need to fill it with its own personality, and I think borrowing massive companies' logo elements isn't the right way to go, personally.

    *speaking in general now, not you specifically.

  11. The Design Thread

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    Posted · Edited by Bronz

    Okay, if you're gonna have a bash doing it yourself then:

    1) Design without colour, this should keep you focussing on the 'right' things rather than purely superficial stuff. All good logos work sans-colour.

    2) You probably already did, but start on paper. Keep ideas disposable and rapid. Fill sheet upon sheet with any ideas that pop into your head.

    3) Don't think about it, as soon as you obsess you start to try too hard, and ideas become forced.

    4) Try to get a strong enough idea for your logo so as not to need to piggyback other brands. I'm sure you've seen little auction/junk shops with mock eBay logos, and I'm sure you'll agree that your first thought it 'that's a rip off of…'

    N.B. That's all advice from me as a designer, not specifically a logo designer.

    Seriously, I wasn't being argumentative or trying to be a dick, I was giving you the advice I'd give anyone; your brand deserves money spending on it.

    Whether you take that advice or not it entirely up to you…

  13. The Design Thread

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    Thankyou for your constructive criticism :rolleyes:

    And no, suggesting that I get a designer in isn't constructive. I clearly want to have a go and, with the kind help of people far better at this than me, come up with something that I can look at and say 'I did that'. I've done that with basically everything about this business, and that's why it's firing on all f**king cylinders. Cheers for your help.

    It is constructive; I think that if you value your brand, and therefore its image, you should invest in it. I could have had a go at doing logos for myself but I know I'd not have done my 'brand' justice. My brand is worth more to me than the few hundred I've spent on branding it, and that should be the same for any business.

    My reply was totally sincere and genuine, but you chose to not take it seriously…

  14. The Design Thread

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    I'm willing to bet I'm taken more seriously than I'm going to take your reply, then I'm going to wait for an answer to the questions I asked.

    It was a serious answer; homemade logos look shit, as you've demonstrated here pretty well.

    It's not illegal to use the letter 't' from the commercially available 'Pico' typeface which is all that's been done here...

    Twitter modified the lowercase t which is the one being used here.

  15. The Design Thread

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    Posted

    Let's assume I'm not fussed about the legalities, just for arguments sake.

    I personally think anyone who wants to be taken seriously should employ a logo designer. It's definitely worth the money; I do it and I am a designer (albeit web).

  22. What’Ve I Missed…?

    in Trials Chat

    Posted

    Easy.

    As the title says, I’ve not ridden in about 7 months (not sure how long that is in trials years). New job and buying a roadie like a girl hasn’t helped…

    What’ve I missed? Anything? Best videos so far this year? Any big rider/company news? Anything at all?

    Looking forward to getting back on the old steed; went out on Saturday for my first proper ride and jeez I’m rusty :(

    Cheers,

    H

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