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  4. The Cycle Trade Thread

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    Well, it sounds better than saying the "two thousand and ten" bikes doesn't it ?

    "Oh-ten" or "twenty ten" sound much better than "two thousand and ten".

    And when it comes round to 2023 people will probably say "twenty twenty three" instead.

    People call the 2001/2002/2003/2004/2005/2006/2007/2008/2009 bikes "Oh-whatever" so why not for the 10's ?

    I mean, nobody calls the 2012 olympics the two thousand and twelve olympics do they ? No, they all say twenty twelve...

    No, it doesn't. What's considered the "correct" thing to say would be twenty ten.

    I know twenty ten sounds better than two thousand and ten, I didn't mention two thousand and ten anywhere in my post, you jumped to a conclusion.

    Yes, yes they will.

    Because 10 is ten, not 0-10, yes I know there is a zero before it, but you wouldnt say two zero ten, you'd say twenty ten.

    No, they say twenty twelve, so why do you say oh-ten?

  8. Great New's

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    If someone robbed my bike, thats worse than taking my girl.

    I would of either stbber him or kicked the fuzzle out of him.

    Lucky though.

    You and me both, I'm all about kicking the FUZZLE outta people!

  17. Used Trialtech Forks Issue

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    Although i come to adjust the stem today becuase i did the top cap up too tight to try and stop my king headset from rocking and the stupid "special" top cap they come with has rounded off <_<

    Surely that's your fault for not being able to preload a headset properly?

  19. Binge Drinking Trials Riders Out There Be Warned!

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    Posted · Edited by JonMack

    To be fair i don't think Jon has ever bragged about claiming edge, and I think he's only ever posted his tattoo once (that I remember seeing), he's only ever mentioned on some occasions that he doesn't drink usually when the thread is about drinking. I hadn't a clue what straight edge was until this thread. It's not like he has 'strightedge' plastered all over his sig or anywhere else for that matter.

    Thanks, I think I've posted a picture maybe 4 or 5 times, maybe once in happy thread, in tattoo thread a couple of times, probably in post a pic of yourself, and in here, even still, they're all for valid reasons.

    You see this is where I disagree with your decision to become straight edge over just saying 'I don't drink', because normally you could have just taken a sip and then given the 100 to a charity that works with alcholics and / or drug abusers.

    (Mind you in saying that if you didn't claim edge you probably wouldn't have been offered that anyway, but my point still stands).

    If I had taken the money, I wouldn't have given it to charity, I'm not that conscientious.

  20. Binge Drinking Trials Riders Out There Be Warned!

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    Posted · Edited by JonMack

    I write it xSTRAIGHTEDGEx because I like to do it that way, thats why.

    You say that the odds are I will stop being straight edge once I turn 18 and can legaly drink, but you dont know me, you dont know that I will.

    Dont tell me I will "Break edge".

    You say I might stop being straight edge when I become a legal drinker, you say the temptation will get the better of me?

    Dont tell me that I will give up on straight edge, I wont, I will be straight edge untill the end. I may not have a tatoo on my body like you, I may not put X's on my hands and cross my arms, but I am straight edge, I live the life of a Christian straight edge teenager.

    Dont tell me what will happen to me, You dont know me.

    Thank you.

    It just looks really f**king gay, and makes edge look even more stupid than people already think it is.

    Where did I say you'll break edge when you're 18? I didn't. I didn't say the temptation will get the better of you AT ALL, I just said that I've seen it happen to people before, I didn't say YOU'RE GONNA BREAK EDGE WHEN YOU'RE 18! You seemed to read my posts like they were directed at you, they aren't. In fact I said,

    I'm not putting an age limit on his lifestyle, and I think it's cool that young kids see the edge lifestyle as a good choice

    so lighten up.

    I hate it when people who're straight edge think they're better than everyone else.

    Where have I implied I'm better than anyone else? I've actually said

    I don't have a problem with people who don't live the way I do, and I won't try and force it down peoples throats

    To be fair, it's easier to 'fit in' by drinking/smoking in today's world? Hence there being the whole 'straight edge' thing, 'cos otherwise that'd be 'standard'?

    Pretty much.

    Uh, except for, like, mentioning it on the forum a couple of times each week? And calling yourself Jonxmack on xbox live. Or getting a huge f**king tattoo across your chest?

    I can't help but thinking that's the exact reason for doing it. If every f**ker in the country was "straight edge", I reckon Jon would drink.

    I know this post is pretty negative. I really don't care what you do - if you like being straight edge then good for you, I certainly don't have a problem with it. Just advertising it seems f**king lame. Mark's vegan analogy is pretty much spot on in my eyes. Or like this woman I met the other day "Oh yah, I'm really eco." She's probably vegetarian and buys organic washing up liquid, before dropping the kids of at school in her BMW X5. Or the person that gives to charity, then lets everyone know about it. Stop thinking you have some kind of moral highground and it suddenly becomes less lame:

    Notice I said you don't HAVE to. Yeah I call myself jonXmack on XBL, that's because I'm proud of my decision, again, the tattoo, I've already stated it's for myself, it's not to brag or show off, it's just something that means a lot TO ME. To be straight edge you don't have to do these things, but I am proud of the lifestyle.

    Did you actually bother to read my posts? Where I said

    I actually gave up drinking in November(ish) '05, but then I got semi drunk on New Years Eve '05/'06, and then when I was walking home at about 2am, with a tiny amount of alcohol in my system, after having a pretty shitty night, and witnessing plenty of people acting like dicks (it was that night that my supposed "best friend" went nuts at me for trying to get on the girl he liked, when in reality we were just chatting, in fact he still owes me £75 from that night, nice one "mate") , it hit me that drinking wasn't enjoyable any more, and it just caused a lot of shit, so I decided to stop. It honestly wasn't until probably about 9-10 months later until I started seriously claiming edge, and over the years as I said previously, it has become more and more important to me.

    Why carry on doing something if you don't enjoy it? If everyone in the world became edge, then good for them, it wouldn't make me change my mind and become a drinker, I'm not that fickle. Also I've stated reasons why I started claiming edge, so don't be a dick and try and bring that up again.

    I don't claim to have a moral high ground over anyone, I never have and I never will, I don't look down on people who don't drink, I don't see any problem with people drinking, I just choose not to, and I think it's something to be proud of. Sure, you might not, and you might give up drinking and be like, this is easy, what's all the fuss about, good for you, but I don't see why there's a need to aim such huge amounts of negativity towards me.

    Seems no one can actually be f**ked to read all of my posts. I don't see where I have claimed moral high ground over anyone, and if you wonder why I'm being defensive, how would you like if it you were the one of a handful of drinkers on the forum, and everyone was giving you shit because of the choice you have made?

    EDIT: JT, I forgot to quote you, but I've honestly never been in that situation, and if I was in it, I still wouldn't drink it. I once got offered £100 cash to take a sip from a pint, but I didn't do it. I'm not bragging, I'm just saying that I like to be edge and wouldn't sell out.

  21. Binge Drinking Trials Riders Out There Be Warned!

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    Posted · Edited by JonMack

    See Sam, that's the kind of response I would expect, not the bullshit you came out with.

    Yeah I did used to get a fair bit of shit, but now as I've been edge for over 3.5 years, all of my friends are used to it and just take the piss in a harmless way, which I don't mind. I know a few vegans, some of them are militant as f**k and go on marches and stuff, others, like my sister, don't do anything about it, they don't try and preach, they just get on with it.

    I don't see straight edge as a moral high ground, I can assure you that that's how some people see it, but not me. It's just my choice, I don't judge those who aren't, in fact I know personally less than half a dozen fellow edge kids, so I'm not gonna hate on those who aren't, or i'd have no friends.

    It wasn't really close friends who were trying to force it, obviously they knew I didn't drink, but people who I was meeting for the first time while out, friends of friends type thing, and while going to all the "uni partys" in the first year in halls, they were the ones that couldn't understand why I didn't drink, "You're at uni man, you gotta have a drink", that was the kinda attitude that really helped me make the decision.

    I actually gave up drinking in November(ish) '05, but then I got semi drunk on New Years Eve '05/'06, and then when I was walking home at about 2am, with a tiny amount of alcohol in my system, after having a pretty shitty night, and witnessing plenty of people acting like dicks (it was that night that my supposed "best friend" went nuts at me for trying to get on the girl he liked, when in reality we were just chatting, in fact he still owes me £75 from that night, nice one "mate") , it hit me that drinking wasn't enjoyable any more, and it just caused a lot of shit, so I decided to stop. It honestly wasn't until probably about 9-10 months later until I started seriously claiming edge, and over the years as I said previously, it has become more and more important to me.

    I was thinking about it riding to work, and there are some lyrics that stick in my mind about straight edge, you'll probably think they're cheesy and lame, but they're from the song For You, For Me by Set It Straight,

    I'll try my best to live each day better than the last.

    To find the strength to fight, to hold on to what's right for me.

    And you should try your best to make this last as long as your heart allows it, and to make this f**king count.

    I'm not invincible, but i believe in myself, and i believe in Straight Edge.

    We all die someday, i'll die standing for what i believe, and i'll stay positive.

    In all sincerity, this means the world to me, and i'll give everything.

    I'm not invincible, but i believe in myself, and i believe in Straight Edge.

    We all die someday, i'll die standing for what i believe, and i'll stay positive and i'll keep focused.

    Choose the battles that you live and die for, it's time to make a start.

    Whatever it is that you have to fight for, to anyone with heart.

    Make your stand.

    Choose the battles that you live and die for, it's time to make a start.

    Whatever it is that you have to fight for, to anyone with heart.

    I can only imagine how amazing this show was, this is the kinda atmosphere and rush I'm talking about that makes me proud to be edge, and is one of the reasons why music means so much to me. Letting those guys know that their words have changed my outlook on life is important to me, other people might not see it, but that's just how I feel.

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  22. Binge Drinking Trials Riders Out There Be Warned!

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    Sam, you selectively chose parts of my posts to make it look I was trying to contradict myself, I can't even be bothered to reply to you properly.

    Have you ever drunk any alchol?

    Ever been drunk?

    Tried a range of drinks?

    Do you ever miss drinking (just having one)?

    Or have you just never come across an alcoholic drink you like?

    Would you try someones drink if it was something different or new?

    Yes, I used to drink a lot, especially at uni.

    I used to get black out drunk pretty much every Weds night for the first 2/3 months of uni.

    Yeah, I've tried all sorts of stuff.

    No

    I did used to like some drinks, but not enough to make me wanna keep drinking

    No

    Well kinda, i did miss one post where he said about not breaking edge. About saying he doesn't like the taste, but the taste of what? Is it breaking edge if you have some wine at church, or a sip of bubbly at a wedding? What about drinks that contain a % of beer.

    I'd imagine that if you're going to get tattooed to show your commitment to it, you aren't going to drink any kind of alcohol. It's like the equivalent of a vegetarian eating something like sweets with gelatin in them. If you're serious about it, you don't. If you're not, you do. I'd call getting tattooed and so on 'serious about it'.

    Pretty much

    As to the whole jon, straight edge scene thing, if you make that choice after weighing it all up realistically then that's cool and i get why... but at the same time i know people who don't touch alcohol at all because it's alcoholic and therefore must be bad and blame it on not liking the taste (despite refusing to try any new drinks) yet this person has a f**k load of energy drinks everytime they go riding which is probably just as bad if not worse than something like a weak vodka and coke. The latter situation is f**king annoying.

    I try to be caffeine free too, I might have a Lucozade if I'm out and about, but that's just cos I like the taste. I drink energy drinks, but I make them all myself so I know exactly what's going into them.

  23. Binge Drinking Trials Riders Out There Be Warned!

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    Posted

    I like having a nice protein enriched strawberry milkshake when I get back from a long ride :)

    I agree with Andy too, I don't really like the taste, and I don't need to get drunk to have a good night out. The only thing I do "miss" is the ability to be able to talk to girls easier, and the fact it's hard to say "can I buy you a drink" when you don't drink yourself, but then again I don't think meeting girls on nights out is the best way to start a relationship, but I don't even wanna go down the conversational path that inevitably leads from that statement (where is...?).

  25. Binge Drinking Trials Riders Out There Be Warned!

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    Posted · Edited by JonMack

    That tattoo's probably the best edge tattoo I've seen, nice one (Y) That's not me being sarcastic either, in case it comes across that way. Font seems pretty sweet, as do the serifs. What's the one on top of the "i", by the way? Looked like there was a symbol or something there...?

    Cheers Mark. I've had it since the end of Jan. Nah it's just a squiggly over the i, just something my tattooist put in,

    I know it's not the best photo in the world, and you can see where it's been rubbed from when it was healing, but here's a close up,

    closeup.jpg

    What the hell is everyone chatting about with edge sh*t, is it some modern street slang for something?

    Straight Edge refers to a lifestyle and youth movement that started within the hardcore punk subculture whose adherents make a lifetime commitment to refrain from drinking alcohol, using tobacco products, and taking recreational drugs. The term was coined by the 1980s hardcore punk band Minor Threat in the song "Straight Edge".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_edge

    EDIT, Sam, I've just made something bold for you. Backs up my point of straight edge not being a phase, and being a decision for life, hence breaking edge.

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