hdmackay Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 I'm wanting to fit my headset cups myself using a block of wood and a hammer, but i've heard various people say that it can quite easily flare your headtube. That is the very last thing I want to happen.So would you reccommend it?I could go to my LBS, but if it's ok to do myself I owuld prefer because it's alot quicker and cheaper.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie East Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) Not too sure on the flaring issue.However headsets aren't too hard to fit, did mine with a block of wood and a hammer, just be careful to make sure it goes in straight. Hasnt flared either Edited November 4, 2009 by Jamie East Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austen Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Done it to my bike loadsss of times, just using a hammer, never mind the block of wood and has never flared my headtube, so you should be fine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo-Scott Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Hunter. Ill do it when you need it done, if you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 I've done it to all my bikes. No problems at all. Just, as already said, make sure they go in straight and even! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmackay Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Alright, cheers everyone. Guess i'll give it a shot.So.. Place cup on headtube, wood over cup, hammer. Jobs a good' un.... riiiight?Hunter. Ill do it when you need it done, if you want?I'll give it a bash myself, and if I fail that would be awesome thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith!! Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Yeh man, just put your headtube in the vice and squeeze the cups in, obviously making sure there straight, its pretty hard to flare a headtube, ive NEVER used a headset press, always used my hands or a vice, ive put in like 50 headsets in diff peoples bikes etc, honestly you wont have any problems using wood or whatever, just make sure its straight . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmackay Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Yeh man, just put your headtube in the vice and squeeze the cups in, obviously making sure there straight, its pretty hard to flare a headtube, ive NEVER used a headset press, always used my hands or a vice, ive put in like 50 headsets in diff peoples bikes etc, honestly you wont have any problems using wood or whatever, just make sure its straight .Don't have a vice, so will have to hammer.Cheers though.Also, are you meant to grease headset cups/ headtubes when fitting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith!! Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Don't have a vice, so will have to hammer.Cheers though.Also, are you meant to grease headset cups/ headtubes when fitting?It'll go in easyer with abit of grease but it doesnt really matter if they go in already, are they really hard to put in or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmackay Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 It'll go in easyer with abit of grease but it doesnt really matter if they go in already, are they really hard to put in or something?I dunno. Not tried yet, haha. just wondering incase I don't use any grease and the cup gets stuck and won't come back out when the time comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 You shouldn't use grease really as it allows the cups to shift slightly in the frame, making it much more likely to flare. Tarty's warrenty is voided if you use grease in there. I have a press so I'd recommend one of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo-Scott Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 When your bashing it in. Try not to have the wood resting on the bearing. As you might crush them if it is. So be careful with that if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmackay Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) You shouldn't use grease really as it allows the cups to shift slightly in the frame, making it much more likely to flare. Tarty's warrenty is voided if you use grease in there. I have a press so I'd recommend one of those. Ahh, ok. So if I put it in completely dry it won't seize in or anything?Hmm... I can't really justify paying £35 for a tool i'll use about twice a year though.When your bashing it in. Try not to have the wood resting on the bearing. As you might crush them if it is. So be careful with that if you can.Ahh Scott, that won't be neccessary. I don't have one of those gay deng headsets where the bearings are fixed in the cups. Edited November 4, 2009 by hdmackay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale-Hill Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 COuld jsut go to LBS and ask them if you can borrow there headset press for a min? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo-Scott Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Ahh Scott, that won't be neccessary. I don't have one of those gay deng headsets where the bearings are fixed in the cups. There not fixed in the cups Ive had the bearings out of loads of deng headsets. I was taking Luke's bb out and his headset bearings fell out, Yes. Thats just how good Deng really is. Touch the bb and the headset falls to bits, Quality parts there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmackay Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 There not fixed in the cups Ive had the bearings out of loads of deng headsets. I was taking Luke's bb out and his headset bearings fell out, Yes. Thats just how good Deng really is. Touch the bb and the headset falls to bits, Quality parts there Haha, sounds about right. However, had that been in 2004-2006 that would have been a whooole different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo-Scott Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) Haha, sounds about right. However, had that been in 2004-2006 that would have been a whooole different story. You werent riding Trials till begining of 09/end of 08 (I think) Edited November 4, 2009 by Echo-Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmackay Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 You werent riding Trials till begining of 09/end of 08 (I think)True But i've heard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo-Scott Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 More to the point, What happened in 04-06? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmackay Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 More to the point, What happened in 04-06? That's when Deng was awesome and made reliable, strong parts.So i've been told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo-Scott Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 That's when Deng was awesome and made reliable, strong parts.So i've been told.Part maybe so, Bearings. Well he's always sucked at them(In my opinion). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith!! Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Part maybe so, Bearings. Well he's always sucked at them(In my opinion).Yep haha, everything was good apart from anything what involved fluid or bearings lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo-Scott Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Yep haha, everything was good apart from anything what involved fluid or bearings lol.Very True. It was fine aslong as it involved no moving parts what so ever Not the 06 rims though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clawz114 Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 (edited) I would reccomend using just a rubber mallet. No block of wood, and no hammer.If you use a rubber mallet its easier then having to hold a piece of wood there aswell as holding the frame AND hitting the wood near the middle of where you think the headtube is underneath.I work in a bike shop and ive fitted countless headsets with just a rubber mallet, and ive never had a problem. They usually go in in 1 or 2 hits. Edited November 5, 2009 by Clawz114 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmackay Posted November 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 I would reccomend using just a rubber mallet. No block of wood, and no hammer.If you use a rubber mallet its easier then having to hold a piece of wood there aswell as holding the frame AND hitting the wood near the middle of where you think the headtube is underneath.I work in a bike shop and ive fitted countless headsets with just a rubber mallet, and ive never had a problem. They usually go in in 1 or 2 hits.I don't have one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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