Bmxer Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hello, just registered, I ride alot of BMX, mainly street and a bit of dirt, but mainly I ride XC on my specialized. Basically I am pretty crap at dirt jumping and street, but I'd love to ride trials. Would I be best to try some on the BMX? and learn my hops very well, or is it very different when it comes to trials bikes? I really have no idea, but I am very inspired by Shawn denny and the likes! I was looking at the Onza Zoot, but really I have no idea about the world of trials, except I want hydraulics, as a hard day of riding cables KILLS the hands. Oh and do I want SS or geared?Is trials for me? Is it easy to pick up on a MTB trials bike? Or am I just an idiot thinking I would be able to ride trials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantallsop Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Because you ride a BMX you should probraly want to try a mod (20") because that would be simlar to a BMX. I would reccomend the 05 T-Bird they £330 wit hydralics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmxer Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Because you ride a BMX you should probraly want to try a mod (20") because that would be simlar to a BMX. I would reccomend the 05 T-Bird they £330 wit hydralics. Yeah but I also ride a 26" MTB half the time aswell. I was wondering; if I should be able to do some trials on BMX first, or is it just too hard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmks88 Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 its possible to ride trials on any bike, just riding a trials bike makes everything easieri started with a mountain bike to learn the first moves like rear wheel hops and rolling on stuff then a bit later i saw a competition and decided to get a trials bike, since then the progress has been a lot fasterso you can try some first moves on your bmx or mountain bike and make the decision to move forward with the sport or notgood luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbra Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 its possible to ride trials on any bike, just riding a trials bike makes everything easieri started with a mountain bike to learn the first moves like rear wheel hops and rolling on stuff then a bit later i saw a competition and decided to get a trials bike, since then the progress has been a lot fasterso you can try some first moves on your bmx or mountain bike and make the decision to move forward with the sport or notgood luck!Its not possible to ride trials on any bike. If you can hop a bmx well...you can hop a trials bike very well. FACT! I tried hopping my mates bmx who runs a rear brake..Its VERY difficult compared to trials. You could learn on a 26" trial bike or a 20" trials bike. But coming from a bmx background as you say i'd say you should get a 20" as it'd feel more comfortable.Try to find a second hand bike or any of the 05 onza range...You should find hydraulic brakes easy that way. Trials is no walk in the park, its a difficult and challenging sport! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Its not possible to ride trials on any bike.quite right. for example you cant ride trials on a bmx if you have no brakes and run a freecoaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmxer Posted June 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Thanks, I can hop a BMX okay, so I think that I should just go straight onto a trials bike, you can always get better anyway! I'm not going to attempt it on my MTB mainly because its a 19" frame XC frame running clipless pedals and lightweight wheels. Do I need a front disc and rear hydro rim or is dual hydro rim good enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbra Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 You don't specifically need either, it all depends on the performance you want. Both hydraulic rim and hydraulic disc offer great power and hold. Even good V's are more than capable for trials. It all depends how much you'll have to spend. If you can afford a front disc why not? the only way you can run duel disc is if you run a disc compatible frame. The advantages to a disc as i see it are more modulation, better stopping power. Disadvantages, chance to bend the rotor, some can be a right bitch to maintain. Thats only my opinion, if i were to ride trials again, i would go hydraulic rim front and rear. I just had too much trouble with my disc, it wasn't worth the effort. Its all up to you, take my advice and juggle it around in your noggin' and come up with a decision yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 If you can hop a bmx well...you can hop a trials bike very well. FACT!what? You trying to say a longer top tube makes it EASIER to bunnyhop? I can bunnyhop a bmx so easily but barely can on my mod. Also manuals are much harder on a trials bike because of this top tube distance making it harder to pull the front end up. Switching to a bmx from a trials bike, i went to manual the bmx and went flat on my arse because i wasn't expecting it to come up so easily (no jokes please)You can do trials on any bike to an extent - you can trackstand on any bike which is something everyone has to learn. However poopipes right, you can't learn to backwheel on a bmx with no back brake lolBmxer, you'd probably be best getting a cheap mod bike off ebay and learning on that. If you're good at bmxing you'll usually learn quicker than people with not a lot of experiance. infact you may even be kickhopping in a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottmarks2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Because you ride a BMX you should probraly want to try a mod (20") because that would be simlar to a BMX. I would reccomend the 05 T-Bird they £330 wit hydralics. best advice to you is to gat a second hand onza t-pro around £200 ish stay away from t-birds, i had one for ages and everytime i went on my freinds t-pro i just wished i had waited untill i could afford that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagie Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Are there many trials riders around your area? if so get to know them, have goes on there bikes (i doubt they'll mind) find whats best for you, you can learn alot by trying different bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbra Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 what? You trying to say a longer top tube makes it EASIER to bunnyhop? I can bunnyhop a bmx so easily but barely can on my mod. Also manuals are much harder on a trials bike because of this top tube distance making it harder to pull the front end up. Switching to a bmx from a trials bike, i went to manual the bmx and went flat on my arse because i wasn't expecting it to come up so easily (no jokes please)You can do trials on any bike to an extent - you can trackstand on any bike which is something everyone has to learn. However poopipes right, you can't learn to backwheel on a bmx with no back brake lolBmxer, you'd probably be best getting a cheap mod bike off ebay and learning on that. If you're good at bmxing you'll usually learn quicker than people with not a lot of experiance. infact you may even be kickhopping in a week.Partz........ when he said hop i thought he ment trials hop not bunny hop haha. My bad. Yeah, listen to partz anyway i'd of only been repeating him if i'd of said anything more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay86 Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 just try it, if you enjoy it then its for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Scarlet Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 best advice to you is to gat a second hand onza t-pro around £200 ish stay away from t-birds, i had one for ages and everytime i went on my freinds t-pro i just wished i had waited untill i could afford that !I ditto that, but T-Birds/T-Vee's aren't bad bikes to start on, but if one was bought, buy the 05/06 one.07 T-Bird has a front disc and it works really good apparently.I got an 07 T-Vee (good to start on, but if you can only afford to buy seperate parts to slowly upgrade to a new bike, then don't go for this), they are a bit dodgy with 2 bolt mounts as aposed to 4 bolt mounts, plus a T-Vee has a rear wheel that is the same size as a front wheel.I'd say T-Bird, its got a wide rear rim, disc hub, disc mount on the forks, 4 bolt mount on the forks.And all of that is good enough to last you a while, and if your starting trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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