i just was lookin on ebay and i rembered the trials bike da bomb i know there not ver y good but there cheap.Plus beacuse i am a learner i may as well get a cheap bike.The da bomb was 30 pounds no bids or 50 pounds no bids but with hs 33's.If i do get it at least i can buy just a new frame when i get beter and build it up with the parts of the da bomb.