well the other day i got a middle burn 16tooth bash, and after reading on here, i find that 16:14 is the norm. but ive switched from 22:17 which is pretty hard compared to 16:14, and i cant seem to get up stuff as easy:S so ive tried 16:13 which is ment to be like 22:17 right? i cant decide if i like 16:14 or 16:13, i like 16:14 it make the bike feel flicky but i cant ride as well. 16:13 i can get up walls but the bike feels like a tank:S argh i just need some opinions and abit more riding with the two set ups i guess cheers Reece