I'd have to agree its changed so much since my 1st year or so riding brum, the rides used to be massive and we'd get riders coming from all over the country to ride with us. I dont know whats changed whether its the people or the amount of security or something but the rides definatly arnt what they used to be. Certain people on the forum also arnt doing Birmingham any favours by the comments and discussions they have between each other, it makes all us brum riders look like idiots and does not advertise the riding and people that Birmingham is all about... Im not saying i dont enjoy the rides i do go on, but it would be nice to see some people visiting from places further afield to ride more often