squireb

good stuff. Ive never really been to ramsgate. I know peeps like to use pencester (sp?) in dover. Or dover in general really. Im from sittingbourne. Don't feel confident enough to ride anywhere im gonna be seen lol. The bike and my severe lack of skills equally contribute to that. Might go try some stuff up at sainsbury. Nice little set of steps and a few benches to do some stuff on.

Im a noob and would like to join some peeps out and about to gain some tips and get to know the local peeps. Im Andy. Im 19, Im from sittingbourne. I ride a heap of crap that doesnt help me learn anything and im that much a noob that i cant do anything but track stand and wheelie. Get posting..

kcchan, see your in kent, where abouts, where you ride?

Mint, exactly what i was looking for, thank you very much.

was looking for a bit more detail than that, but cheers for the help.

Yes, a drawing with all the relevant measurements. I cant see how someone didn't pick up on that,

So no ones willing to measure their bike and then just add all the details to a picture of the same bike? I'm not asking for the impossible or a top secret document. "so your looking for a blueprint drawing with headanlge, chainstay lengths, bb rise, top tube length, ect ect?" that would be the one yes.

I want to build one and would like a reference as apposed to diving in blind and making a waste of a good £90 worth of tubing.

I want a picture of a widely known frame, and could someone mark all the internal angles on it, and lengths may come in handy as well. I guess what i after is a "working" drawing. Blue print almost.

I can understand the website perfectly. Just pointing out that i find bullet points a more affective way of explaining something, and that the explanations provided may be bettered if they were laid out in bullet points with slightly more detail. Why is everyone shittin on me for pointing that out.

Could someone supply me with a picture of a stock frame with all the angles marked on it?

cheers for kind of backing me up there. No need to gang up on me, just pointing out something i think may of hindered some of the younger, or less skilled riders.

Not that blunt. something like.... the track stand 1. Find a slight gradient or as flat a surface as possible 2. Ride slowly into the gradient at a 45 degree angle, or if on flat ground, apply and hold the brakes 3. When you find the point where the bike comes to a stop, gently adjust pressure on your forward foot to stop yourself rolling backwards. The aim is to get the bike to stay in one place. Keep yourself as centered and upright as possible. If you find yourself leaning in one direction, turn the handle bars into the opposite direction to stabilize yourself. If on flat ground, keep your brakes locked and follow the same rules as above. I find that when its set out in bullet points, it is easier to define each step of the move. A paragraph tends to lend itself to a compound thought and this is where the confusion comes in. The rider tried to fulfill all the criteria mentioned in one go and fails to progress with that move.

Im not trying to be harsh or say that what they have done is a complete waste of time. Im just pointing out that i find some of the explanations to be not as clear as they could be. I will post the chap an email and see what he says. I didn't mean to cause a ruckus or to insult anyone. Maybe its my newbness to riding that is confusing me.