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dude some people have jobs, families and other stuff going on. i havent got time 2 spend 3-4 hours in the gym everyday and havent got the energy! dont compare actors to day to day life people! he probably lived to train till he got to the weight needed for the film, i train as a hobby and cant do what he does because i have other things going on dont care what you say actors have good paid jobs can afford what they want, diet will be only the best for them thats why they can build musce quickly. ( and theres always steroids which no actor is going to admit to taking ) fact! you wont be able to put on the same as a million pound paid actor! not possible mate

also you have to keep in mind, it takes years to put on muscle if you train naturally. dont expect anything major by starting to take supps, you will notice a difference after a year, also you might not see it you will make little changed and get bigger slightly but because you look at yourself regularly you wont see it. take pics and measure if your serious and see how far you can get in a year. i put on around 6-8 kgs in the last 8-9 months but looking in the mirror i wouldnt notice. body fat stayed the same. its hard work with steroids let alone without... work hard and stay motivated is the only was forward. after you turn 21 a whole new world opens up if your willing and serious about building muscle

whats your diet like? how long have you been training? how often do you train? a good protein is the most important thing you can buy, optimum nutrition gold standard ( strawberry or banana cream are to die for ). bcaa's, creatine, weight gainers are good. but you can take all the supplements in the world, if your diet isnt right you wont put on muscle mate, simple. wana be big... EAT EAT AND EAT SOME MORE!

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is that an rg350?

great workout today, done back and triceps. no deadlifts today, my lower back hurt from shrugs and it was the kind of spine pain felt quite uncomfortable.

your joking yeh? lol

another personal best on shrugs today i done warmup set with 55kg of 12 reps, then 2 sets of 8 reps with 95kg and 3 sets of 8 reps with 155kg. felt like an animal tommorow is back and triceps might try for a pb in deads. 1rep max

just above the nipple on the upper chest, gives me such good stretch and pump. try doing presses with dumbells aswell, evens the strength in both shoulders. i hit a pb in bent over barbell rows with 86kg, 2 sets 6 reps ... was well chuffed

muel, shoulder presses behind the neck put alot more stress on the shoulder joint ( for me ). try it out and see what you prefer, altho nothing beats presses to front right down till the bar touches the chest... nice and slow

if you cant do legpresses theres nothing similar to it... so just add 2 more sets of squats to kind of make up for it. latpull down is a biggy, best exercise to widen your lats. umm you could do wide grip pull ups but it wont give you the same stress on the muscle, never the less it will be a good replacement. and for the pressdowns just do two arm tricep extensions or some kickbacks. or just have a search around for different exercises and try different stuff and see what works best for you.

bodybuilding is going to the gym and building your body. weight lifting will build your body therefor its bodybuilding. its a shame the word bodybuilding is nowa days asociated with 250 lbs mass monsters, but if your lifting weights your bodybuilding. as to the fact that im a member on bb.com and i read and get my info from there, its because it has plenty of members who start out as skinny 140lbs guys and get to 200 lbs through PROPER training. and i go there because its a good place to start gathering information if your serious about lifting. i'd highly recommend the forums on there actually

Altered it a little, added more compound exercises and taken some out. This is how i would do it if i was to do it DAY 1 - Chest + Biceps Bench Press Incline Bench Press Dumbell Flys ( Flat and Incline ) Barbell Curls Hammer Curls DAY 2 - Shoulders + Traps Shrugs ( 5 sets barbell 5 sets dumbbell ) Shoulder Press to Front Lateral Raise Bent over reverse flys DAY 3 - Back + Triceps Wide grip pulldowns Bent Over Rows ( dumbell & barbell 5 sets each ) Deadlifts Skull crushers Cable pressdown DAY 4 - Legs Calf Raises Squats Legpress OPTIONAL Leg extensions DAY 5 - Rest in time for the weekend. DAY 6 - Ride. Day 7 - Ride. And thats a damn good workout guaranteed. Sets, it's really up to you but i'd say try and do at least 4 sets if possible, i normally do 5. Reps, id say 6-10 reps per exercise, you decide how many but i'd recommend do as many as you can, train to failure so use a weight that you will definetly NOT be able to lift more than 10 times. Someone might want to add, but i tried to keep it simple ish! Cheers

i posted that link especially to show you that the shittiest sites know that muscle needs time to recover before its worked again. and about talking to people... i've been a member of bodybuilding.com since feb 2005 and spoken to alot of pt and amateur bodybuilders, and read countless articles from charles glass ( who is asociated with only the best ) saying that you need to kill the muscle in your workout but the give it time to recover for the next workout. im not really that bothered, i have my routine ive done my research so lets just leave it as you disagree with me

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtraining i've studied muscles and anatomy for 2 years, you clearly havent got a clue what your talking about, overtraining is training a muscle that is sore! idiot

muel you after a full body workout? or split?

overtraining is training a muscle that is still sore from a previous workout. and it shouldnt be worked untill its fully recovered. and about beginers starting to train... its the time when you gain muscle the quickest because your body isnt used to it. i gained 6 kgs in the first 2 months i started training. no supplements no nothing. split routine and at least an 8 hour sleep a night, eating 4-6 times a day when possible might not work for him but its worth a try and i think he should try both and decide what works for him

and if you want a beginer workout id say stick to deadlifts, squats and benchpress.

If you start doing chest / biceps etc days you end up training them once a week .. who grows from hitting something once a week? did you honestly ask that?! come on mate do some research its a well known fact training something once a week is much more beneficial than hittin it every 2 days. if your not sore for 2 days after your workout your not working the muscle properly. tell any presonal trainer that doing full body workouts is better for building muscle than splits. and DONT OVERTRAIN, train smart and if you train properly you shouldnt need to train a muscle more than once a week trust me

in that case id recomment deca umm id go for a fat burner hydroxycut hardcore gives a great cut if you give it a little help with a good diet

creatine is a great supplement to be honest, and ITS NOT ILLEGAL its a great pre workout or post workout mixed with protein. bit of water retention but its great for mass building. try it out is your best option, 10 quid a tub? nothing to lose really. potentially alot to gain, if you eat smart and train well

barbell and dumbell shrugs. 6-7 sets 6-10 reps heavy weight

muel when you work your legs make sure its a leg day only. legs should only be worked on their own. id recommend this ( im using this aswell ) chest + biceps shoulders + traps back+triceps legs abs its really up to you if you want to do them or not, i DONT! if you were to id chuck abs in 3 times a week, at least!

21 inch biceps ? Bit hard to believe... get a tape on and take a picture Ronnie Colemans biceps are 22" contest shape and he's 7 time Mr. Olympia!