phil white
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btw!
bucky or anyone who knows him.
don't get those arospeed wheels! i have them, they are not made for the british market so they are not prepared with our weather/salt in mind!
they corrode on the dished rim really badly and arospeed are a b*****d to get a warranty replacement off...
the corrosion is really bad all round the dish on all four wheels and i know of at least 5 other people with the same problem!
while i'm here this was my first kev car renault 5 turbo dimma, that used to cost me £2500 a year to insure. was fast and handled well but not a patch on the civic!
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Spoonz you only posted this because you know you will win the "Nicest car on the forum" award 'cos Danny has a soft spot for Minis! :S :)
Phils Civic aint got shit on that mini. :P
EDIT: Put some smilies in so I dont get acused of flaming.
but!!!! you haven't seen phils civic lately have you? mwahahahaha
all will be revealed in good time!!! :)
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i'm not replying because your argument is nothing original, you're just repeating what everyone else has said!
get a grip, dumb-ass >_<
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It is nice to see that your argument has progressed from this quote, to a fairly well explained and eloquent response.
I see your point, but aren't you really advocating education and contriception as a means of helping to stem the tide of famine? If so, this is something that not only has been mentioned in this thread, but is also a goal of sever major charities. Wouldn't contriception be a better way to limit the birth rate, rather than simply discouraging sex? Something that is highly likely to be unpopular.
(Oh and cheers for the spelling tip :P )
yeah,
right from my first post i was giving a personal point of view, talking about how i feel about the suffering, yes everyone should be given condoms but as quoted below mine was a moral point of view about having common sense which as you say is likely to be highly unpopular. BUT is still morally the right thing to do to stop the kids suffering!
everyone attacked me and called me ignorant so i had to fight my corner, thats life!
this is a moral opinion, and as some have pointed out will probably never happen but it would be better for those who are suffering if it did
phil
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Does the number of people who have rejected your "suggestion" not convince you that:
a) it is a badly explained/ill informed viewpoint
b ) short of being ill informed, you are a fairly ingorant indevidual, whoes knowledge of world issues should be re-assessed before starting a debate.
cheers anal for not jumping on the bandwagon!
in response to your question.
a)I personally do not think it is badly explained, but one person has taken offence to it as they have not red it properly and all the bummers jumped on the bandwagon and i tried to explain what i meant repeatedly but people keep commenting on the subject without reading the thread correctly so i get a constant barrage of abuse from people and they don't even know what i'm arguing about!
b)if you think i'm an ingorant indevidual then fair doos but i personally like to think of myself as an ignorant individual! lmao
please read below very carefully!
my point is nothing to do with forcing birth control or telling anyone to do anything they do not want to.
my point is that i feel sorry for the masses of babies and toddlers that have died/are dying in africa.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY,
i feel the parents of these children should think about the suffering they will cause to a child by bringing it into a world of starvation and almost certain death. this is my point, they should take responsibility, they should not be controlled or forced but think for themselves and make the right decision not to put a child through all that suffering if they cannot clothe or feed it
thats it! simple as that , theres nothing ignorant or narrow minded there! just a very fair opinion that the african people should stop the suffering of babies by making their own decision on whether or not they can provide an enviroment in which that child will survive!you all made the mistake of skipping through the posts in this thread, totally missing the point and attacked me for the above, for trying to protect children!
this is a moral opinion, and as some have pointed out will probably never happen but it would be better for those who are suffering if it did
hopefully everyone understands now, if not please be sure to tell me exactly what you don't understand about the above comments!
phil
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Now imagine your sitting in your shanty hut, and some narrow minded arrogant nob who you have no relation to, lives a totally different life to you, in a different world with a view on life which you can not possibly comprehend comes along and tells you you cant have sex.
tomturd i'm not saying that, jeez read the thread as you are unearthing the original argument.
i said they should be able to make there own mind up that they shouldn't put the kid through that.ie; the common sense thing...not that they should be forced to stop having sex!
crikey you guys are hard work, what have you been smokin.........
i'm tired of typing the same explanation to everyone but worded differently every time so no more numbskulls. pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :P
BTW. "narrow minded arrogant nob" i believe was aimed at me! well you can ermm kiss my left bollock you chickabillywinpop! :-
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Nah,Keep repling, this thread has been very entertaining, if not a tad bitchy :)
I agree the babies didnt deserve the pain and suffering, and I can see the sense in your argument. I just dont think its practical for people in that situation.
yeah, i see it like. well put yourself in this situatution, you're sitting in your shanty hut and you've got a body bag next to you with your son in, how can you even think of putting another little guy through that, why not get your food and when you're getting enough food and you're getting on well (farming or whatever) then think about sex and creating another mouth to feed. if you can barely feed yourself common sense says you don't create a baby as theres nothing to feed it with!
but as i said, common sense doesn't always prevail!
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In a way you have a point, in that if they did all stop reproducing then the population would go down. But then what about the next generation? What happens when everyone has become too old to work and there is no-one left to take over? You could argue that there could be a birth-limit or something, but that would take people to enforce it etc.....
The purpose of being alive is to reproduce. To carry on your family genes or whatever. You cant just say people should volantarily not have sex anymore, because although its easily said, its not realistic in the real world. Look at the situation here, we have readily available contraception, everyone is educated about the dangers of unprotected sex. But yet there is still a high rate of teenage unwanted pregnancies and abortions. People find it hard to resist their body's sexual urges in this country, which is aparently civilised, think what it must be like in poorer countries. Perhaps you should also consider that not all these sexual encounters are going to to consentual either.
ahhhhh, i can't stop replying (sorry bongo)!
jimbo you're absolutely right, i was enforcing the laws of common sense which dont always prevail in the real world i suppose! but i never suggested birth control, i would never think such a thing! i just think of all the body bags with babies in that didn't deserve such pain and suffering!
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there you go again! see jimbo and bongo. tell him off aswell! lol
yeah, cheers azeurs, nice debate, no hard feelings!
officially closed!
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Then why put the 'cheeky remark' in. If you want a reply to your question why not just put that and leave the cheekiness out. Maybe with out the immature comments in some of your posts this would have been more of a constructive debate?
i take it you haven't red his posts then as there is an equal amount of stupidity!
what is it with everyone. if you didn't reply maybe he would of seen the question and replied but now your sending the conversation down a different path. brilliant!
jeez bongo jumped on the wagon aswell, this is officially no longer a fair fight, azeurus has brought his boys round so i'll give up now!
and bongo, you're right i do reply to everything don't i, its not stress i guess i just like typing! lol
byeeeeeeee
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I'm not getting angry at all. I don't really get angry. Annoyed is a different thing, but like I said, I'm not really annoyed yet :)
Good for you. I wasn't trying to wind you up though. That's not the name of the game...
once again your ignoring the important bits in my post, the real point of that post was for you to swallow your pride and talk normally with me about this 2 day debate we've had.
i have more constructive arguments with my little brother dude.(£10 says you quote this and totally ignore the sentence above it as thats what you've done every time, the sentence above is the one you're supposed to quote and comment on not the cheeky remark at the end, if you did this then the debate would then become constructive)
whatever this will be my last post ..........unless you reply how a constructive person would!
lol, ta, phil.
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lol, the first one is a question you dumb bum, i wanted to know why he was getting angry! over the debate or on a personal basis!
back to school me thinks monkey!
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No-one has pissed me off in this topic, you're coming close though :). MrMonkey can believe what he wants. Whether or not I agree with him is a different matter. But he wasn't being a dick about it...
If you want to take that as an apology, then go for it :P
why are you getting angry?
over a debate?
i was merely pointing out imperfections in your side of the argument, fair doos i was rubbing it in a bit, but it's all banter mate(fun),
you shouldn't expect any less than what i wrote as you did both tell me to "shut up" and shrug my points off as pointless. which was very childish and annoyed me and it seems that i am better at winding people up than you are by the way you are reacting!
once again just a bit of banter mate, but i still think you should acknowledge my point and agree you did jump the gun a liccle bit!
ta, phil.
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How can an opinion be wrong? I can honestly say Tomm is one of the SMs who I really do respect, and he is very intelligent. So stop with your idiotic "I know you are but what am I" type arguments
not another person who doesn't read before replying, that isn't about his opinion its about him accusing me of saying something i didn't!
stop bum licking tomm as its obvious you are trying to get brownie points because you said some stoopid shit earlier in this topic and pissed him off!
that was a fine debate imo, i feel like a weight is lifted off my shoulders now!
thanks azeurus.
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i'll take that as a "thakyou for correcting me! my apologies for jumping the gun"
weeeeeellllllllll, apology accepted. :)
we should expect a better attitude from a senior member imo! a real man can admit when he's wrong mo fo! :)
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You, Sir, are completely missing the point. Whether or not they should have children is irrelevant. It's the fact that you propose marching in there with your big rod of justice and telling people what they're allowed to do. It's bullshit. And that's without going into the fact that these poor families probably weren't expecting to live in such poor conditions. Add to that the culture in other countries (It's probably seen as natural to have children - Quite rightly imho) and I have a pretty f**king strong argument. I think it would probably be wasted on you though...
ok,
read through my posts in this topic and for once read them carefully. you will notice that at no point did i suggest marching in and telling them not to have children or using birth control! i've basically said every time THE PARENT SHOULD REALISE THAT GIVING BIRTH TO A CHILD IS POINTLESS AND IS AS GOOD AS MURDER (COMMON SENSE REALLY)!
*1st quote, "why dont they start by helping themselves and stop shagging"
*2nd quote, "If they stop giving birth to children who will eventually end up on one of those adverts, crying and dying from starvation then perhaps they could feed a few more of those who are alive and starving now! thus keeping people alive thus helping themselves!"
*3rd quote, "How can they watch there own children die and there families children die then go and have a shag and give birth to another poor little b*****d just to watch him slowly die from malnutrition!"
as you can see from the three quotes i'm talking about them taking responsibility themselves and stopping the needless suffering and death of a child by not shagging!
i never said anything about marching in and telling them what to do via birth control or whatever!
it seems you're so eager to be correct that you're actually making things up so you can argue with me!lmao.
not too bright are you matey!
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And if it's not my business, why didnt you PM this conversation to him. If it's public, it's my business.
fair doos, i take that back.
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you mean "yes phil, you were right but don't resort to such childish things just because the person you were debating with has walked away from the converstation without acknowledging you were correct but infact insulted you by saying "and i'm not even gonna bother with phil white" attempting to save face when he was actually wrong!"
not that its any business of yours of course!
oh and a big thanks to spacemunkee for actually reading my points and acknowledging i was talking sense!
phil.
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Of all the quotes I've read on this post that I don't agree with, it's these that anger me the most. How you can possibly compare the problems that this country has with those of the third world amazes me. What's the worst we have to moan about - buses run late? The NHS isn't quite as amazing as you'd like it to be? Too many speed cameras? Do you not think these are incredibly trivial when compared to millions dying of starvation and disease, with infections like HIV showing no signs of coming under control and countless numbers not even having access to a clean water supply?
I've been to many countries around the world, and I have to say that I haven't found a single one that I would like to live in as much as England. The NHS, for all its faults, is a fantastic service which many foreigners would love to have (and that includes places like America). Think about the quality of life that you have, and compare it to that of people living in the third world. There really is no comparison.
And don't even get me started on the arguments stating that, as a nation we didn't get any help to advance to where we are now, so why should we help the third world? I didn't need any help to answer a sheet of questions I'm currently doing for exam preparation, does that mean that if someone asks me how to do a certain question I should refuse, simply on the grounds that I was able to figure it out, so should you? Of course it doesn't, we should all use what we know to help others. We're all living on the same planet, we could all just as easily have been born into an African family. I doubt you'd be so eager to encourage the Western world to "sort their own countries out first" then.
i'm guessing from your post that you are currently in africa helping the hungry and all your wages are passed on to the charity and you live off the land!
but no you're warm and cozy in front of your pc and the only thing you've probably done is bought the band aid single!
don't get all high and mighty on me, we have different priorities in life! each as important as the other!
AND I'M NOT EVEN GONNA BOTHER WITH AZEURUS! AS HE IS A JOKE! SLAYED AND CAN'T ADMIT TO IT! YOU COULD AT LEAST ADMIT DEFEAT! LOL
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Yes, you're finally getting the point (I wish...). It is their God-given right to be able to have Children. How the f**k would you like it if some dickhead from a country richer than us came along and told you that you just weren't allowed to ride your bike, or have a car?
what about the child! not the parent the CHILD! thats what all my arguments are about the child doesn't deserve to be born into poverty and starvation! it isn't fair and its needless suffering!
you are one sick bloke to disagree with me! foolish little boy!
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so what your saying is its right for them to give birth to a child thats as good as dead!
its their god given right to allow a poor little child to be brought up in such circumstances and in most cases not even live to its teen age years AZEURUS AND RHYTHM 101!
but oh no because i talk sense and i'm not living in a fantasy world i'm narrow minded, you two are the narrow minded ones, you are defending the death,starvation and suffering of a child and you don't seem to realise it!
and don't blame it on education, if you look around and see the dead bodies of children everywhere, people crying with pain from hunger. you don't have sex. simple
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So you're saying their right to have sex/babies should be removed? What do you think that will do? They're not exactly getting randy and bum-f**king three times a day or anything. They barely have the energy to find food/water - but you think they're some shagging machines?
If they didn't reproduce, the race would pretty much die out after a while... as that video suggests. Gotta keep the name alive, likes.
To be honest, there isn't all that much the G8 member leaders can do. Ok, so they can splash some aid money in here and there - but that won't cure AIDS. Doctors have been searching for a cure for yonks - it's a slow process that'll be solved when it's solved. So that first video did have slightly false messaging in there, but it's all for the good so whatever.
lol get a clue mate. there reproducing is not helping them its killing them off quicker and yes they obviously are getting randy otherwise there wouldn't be ten kids per family would there!
fookin hell even a ten year old can suss that out, are you looking at the world with a squinted eye because you aint seeing what everyone else is!
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You sir, are a penis. This country will never be sorted out, but I think you'll agree it's a bit more sorted out that theirs.
It must be really hard for you, eating 3 meals a day, watching TV & DVD's, going riding and having a choice in which clothes you wear.
Think before you post bullshit ah?
if i may, i'll revert back to my original post in response to this!\/\/\/
why dont they start by helping themselves and stop shagging. i mean for f**ks sake.
How can they watch there own children die and there families children die then go and have a shag and give birth to another poor little b*****d just to watch him slowly die from malnutrition!
did you know that a majority of the men that are fed and clothed by these charitys rape babies<<<yes BABIES as they believe it gets rid of the aids virus
i'd rather spend my money on helping my own country.
thats what monkey is agreeing with. Its a cycle of stupidity which is no ones fault but there own.If they stop giving birth to children who will eventually end up on one of those adverts, crying and dying from starvation then perhaps they could feed a few more of those who are alive and starving now! thus keeping people alive thus helping themselves!
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why dont they start by helping themselves and stop shagging. i mean for f**ks sake.
How can they watch there own children die and there families children die then go and have a shag and give birth to another poor little b*****d just to watch him slowly die from malnutrition!
did you know that a majority of the men that are fed and clothed by these charitys rape babies<<<yes BABIES as they believe it gets rid of the aids virus
i'd rather spend my money on helping my own country.
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