Nic84echo

It's the long, and yes it's very nice to ride. Haven't found a riding situation yet where I wasn't entirely comfortable on that bike, it just suits me right down to the ground.

Thats actually exactly what I had lined up as the replacement! lol

I think it's the long actually, wheelbase is a tad over 1040. Lovely to ride. And light too.

Just a quick snap of my Echo Team. I've spent the past month or so rebuilding it (she was a second hand 'bargain', that needed just about everything stripped, serviced and/or replaced! Which I have now done). A couple of small area's still need some cosmetic attention, but it's a lovely ride Feel free to pass judgement! I'll post more pics as I continue to make changes. Spec at the mo is: Frame - Echo Team '07 Bashplate - Echo Lite Fork - Echo Lite Headset - Cane Crap (have promised myself something much better, and soon) Wheels - V!Z rims and hubs all round Tyres - Monty Eagle Claw all round BB - Echo TR Cranks - Echo 7075 Freewheel - WI ENO Sprocket - Trialtech, Gearing - 18/12 Front Brake - Magura HS33 Rear Brake - Echo TR Stem - Trialtech Sport Forged Bars - ZOO! (ye oldie ones, creaking now, soon to die...*sigh*) Grips - Trialtech Foam

Buy it! 120 notes would barely get you a decent rear wheel over here! And to be fair, the frame looks more than clean for being second hand.

I've seen photos taken during the filming of that advert, they were posted on facebook last week. Three attempts at that gap, 2 bails. It looked EPIC! Danny boy must not feel fear like the rest of us mortals! I think what he's managed this year is amazing. Its not often you see trials on tv!

I'd heard someone saying something similar. Although come to think of it, I'm sure they were speaking about Adamant risers being like the Zoos. They're quite possibly all made by the same people anyway, and re-branded for the various companies. Like pedals, thats not even funny its so obvious, Wellgo seem to make them all, but you pay a touch more for every brand up the scale having slapped their logo on them.

If thats true, go for the Trialtechs. I'm running old ZOO! bars, and it's no lie, there is something a bit special about them. It'll be a sad sad day when they eventually die (and lets face it, they're well old, it'll happen soon).

Ta min. Blunt, but you're right!

Hi Raz Theres no reason you couldn't use the stem off a mod (pretty much everythings 1 1/8" size wise these days), but they tend to be longer as well as giving more rise which may stretch your riding postion a bit more than you'll want. Perhaps another solution would be bars with a slightly higher rise?

I use Rock Blue pads on my grind, they've served me pretty well, although I think the average retail @ £15 a set is pretty extortionate. Having said that, I cant remember exactly when I last changed them, and I dont get out for more than an hour or two a day at most, so cant give you much of a comparison over your Onzas. Just seems like ages since I put them on, and there's plenty of pad left (put it this way, it's been a lot longer than 5 days!). Maybe check ebay for something suitable, I got a set on there a while back for 99p. I guess noone was after pads that day!

Ditto. It's been lashing it for the past week here in the 'deen, so every evening I've been out in the pitch dark getting wet. But hey, that just makes it so much more satisfying when you make that big hop, gap or finally crack another silky smooth move. And think about it, if you can do it in the slippiest of conditions, you'll be an absolute master in the dry! So how about don the wet weather gear and head out anyway (this is the UK after all, and we're headed for winter so it's not gonna get any better), and by the time you're done you'll really have earned the cold beer waiting in the fridge at home! (Did I say beer? I meant good healthy energy drink thingy...) Nic

Thanks for that quick reply, Lukas. I've realised now that I should have put a bit more info into that first post though. The flex issue isn't at the top end, what with the built in booster being part of the top two bolt holes, but more an issue at the lower end of the seat stays. Would a 4-bolt booster perhaps be a better option to completely elliminate this movement? Or are 2-bolts just as capable of stiffening things up? Also, I'm a sucker for eye candy, and try to keep the weight gain to a minimum (I used to be an xc racer and as such have a tendancy to try and lighten things) so the cost isn't really an issue. Having said that, I wont slap a piece of kit on the bike just because it's 'top of the line'. Please don't take that as me knocking back the Trialtech suggestion either, I'm a big fan of their stuff, not long ago I opted for a Trialtech sport forged stem, perfect geo for my height and riding style, lighter than just about anything else out there, looks good and best of all was a relative bargain! As I mentioned before though, my real concern was either type of booster fitting on in the first place. I've never even seen a pic of an Echo Team ('07 at least) with a booster on, and the crossover pipe sits at quite an upward angle compared to the seat stays. Again, perhaps I'm thinking a bit too hard about this and should just experiment a little. Cheers again.

Hi guys (and gals), I'm about to invest in a brake booster for the rear of my Echo Team. I know it already has that huge booster welded onto the frame, but it seems that despite that, a stonking Echo brake, Rock pads and a heavy grind I'm still managing to flex that frame and the wheel occasionally manages to loose grip and slip on through. Anyone use that frame and have the same problem? So, whats your preference, 2-bolt or 4-bolt? And if anyone here does have the same set-up, do either foul the crossover pipe? I could just be overthinking this, but it looks to me like a wide booster might not actually fit on very well. Cheers, Nic

I don't think you can really say that one is better than the other, with brakes it all comes down to personal preference. In my case I'm not a huge fan of disc brakes, although I have toyed with a hope mini as a front brake. Didn't really see it as a vast improvement over my HS33 though, so the Maggie is back on. I like the options you have with the rim brakes, for example, the numerous pads available for different conditions. And if you need more bite, a rim grind works wonders. I have a fairly harsh grind on the rear, for on/off stopping power, and smooth up front for better modulation. Again, all down to personal preference. Also, non disc hubs tend to be lighter (and cheaper), never a bad thing... Maybe experiment to see what suits your riding style? Or try a friends bike with a different setup.

Hey I'm Nic, I'm new to the forum and I ride an Echo Team. I started riding trials when I was about 16, but a huge crash in a different discipline put a swift end to that, 9 years on I'm 25 and have been back on a bike for only a few months. Everythings coming back very quickly but I'm pacing myself and still concentrating on the basics. Absolutely loving it! I live and ride in Aberdeen. I prefer natural, however, the urban jungle is my playground, so I'm making the most of it! If there's anyone in the area that would like to help a fast learning newbie along the way please give me a buzz, any advice would be very welcome. Thanks Nic