Thanks Ian x x x My aim was to get more than 50 posts .......I'm nearly there I'm up for the Queen's portraiIt NeXt YeAr Hopfilly If YOu THe Tax payer can keep me supplied with more cameras you do all know that .....you lot ....THE TAX PAYER GOT ME MY CAMERA, MY FLASHGUN, MY BIKE, MY TRAIN FAIR INTO LONDON........YOU PAY MY RENT, MY PHONE BILLS....MY ELECTRIC THE LIST GO'S ON AND AND ON YOU EVEN PAY MY INTERNET CONNECTION WHY?????