Wright Pads Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Right got these today on warranty and also due to XC no longer made (well black only) and my new rims.Built the rear fine no problems, 260 all round, drive probs could do with 258 but meh they are all tight and lovely. DT said 259 so 260 it was.Front how ever.DT swiss says to use some really odd stuff, tried 258 and they are way to long, like long than a porn stars whatsit.So 32 hole, 3 cross, Mavic D521 front fpro 2, anyone know what to use?? i dfid;nt have time to fiddel anymore but though it be worth asking and seeing if other have had problems tooOh word of warning, the spoke now fit tight, yep tigther than you mummy. Was a right royal pain to lace up due to this, least it held it shape.These are for my trail/single track old school rig not trials. King is for trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 that sounds about right, 258-260. well thats what it was onto a 717 (around the same height) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robwalker Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Ring up tarty bikes and ask, there always handy for wheel stuff. Great customer service!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilman Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Did you use the DT Swiss calculater?IF so it should be correct.Just incase you can double check at DT Swiss' web site.www.DTSwiss.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted June 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 It's what i used but the legnths don't workI tried just lacing up the basic starting off of 8 spokes, they all showed there and then too long3 other checked in the shop and said the sameI'll try tarty to9mrow to see what they say but i did use that link as there is only one dt swiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 i bet you forgot the twist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmowerman Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 They always look too long. Just lace the whole wheel up and get a bit of tension and see how it goes. If theyre still too long you can always try 4X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilman Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Yeah,Lace up the whole wheel and tension it as well.THen if they're too long, try some shorter ones or go 4x.You can't tell if they're too long by only lacing 1/4 of the wheel or 8 spokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuff_runt Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 you really do need to lace the whole wheel before you can get a correct view on too long/short. i know when i build wheels and maybe have only half the spokes in, some seem far too short, and others far too long, until i add at least one full side of spokes in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Tried some other rims and stuff saame problem, looking close hub had a miss drillingHope said so when we sent them the picsNew hub same spokes big twist job done..nice light wheel for my new rig whoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future orange 660 Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 so you have tried to build a hub, contacted hope, been sent a new one and built the new wheel al in a day.i strongly suspect that it was just the spokes seeming too long as found when partially building a wheel. mentioned many times above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 (edited) No,We stock hope hubs, so we took one off the stock to replace the one that was faulty. An email went to hope fact Alan @ Hope for him to advice us. There was a very notciable margin in the spoke drilling. We check a few of our stock and found 2 more like it. Date codes match too.So that little lot went back one taken form stock and built, you do have to put a huge twist on these and job done. How ever i ran out of 258's so used 260's all round but wound em up tightlyWe've had a few call with same problem and e-mails too Edited June 22, 2006 by Wright Pads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future orange 660 Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 thats handy. what shop is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Devon Cycles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Devon CyclesIs it much of a trials shop?Im spending a week in devon this summer, might pop in...Where is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted June 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Nope nowt trials in there bar two of my rigs2 Frankfort GatePlymouthDevonBottom of townPending when in sumemr it might be shut, closing down as im moving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future orange 660 Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 nice one. i will probably pop in if im in the area. do you have a website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted June 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Apprantly we do, ex owner had some compnay like the yellowpages and tompson local that do them. I saw it ocne and it was poor and poo. I've no idea if it's online still or anything but we have no use for it or of it. Ebay is good for sales. Anyway shop is clossing down, when exactly no idea. I haven't been running it many reason why which are personal but some twat is and thats a long story too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future orange 660 Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 you must be busy then? still own rocket cycles too? or are you busy at ebc?i thought people that said they could do or have done everything were lieing. but now i see that it can be achieved.hows the pic coming along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Pete as for the spoke length thing Id re-check the crossing + lacing. I thought the spokes tarty had sent me were too long but it was just me being silly and lacing them 3x instead of 4x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted June 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 you must be busy then? still own rocket cycles too? or are you busy at ebc?i thought people that said they could do or have done everything were lieing. but now i see that it can be achieved.hows the pic coming along?Mate still has my Hd sorting and benching on his PC.Nope if you'll check you'll see Rocket CyclesThe RocketBike Tech Bristol All 3 are all the same trading name. They are also closed. Ebay account dead too with full closer and 100% trust. Me living here in Plymouth and them up there was too much to. Only wya t learn is by doing so.EBC was when i was young and then when the old man needed some massive help when they got hammered with orderds and some staff got sacked. It was 2 years ago i last worked there and left for perosnal reason between myfather and there on. We haven't spoken from that day and probs will never ever again. It's easy to run a mail order, need nothing big to do it nor lots of cash, £10K to be safe. Say bye to £3K least in advertising in the 1st 3 months mind!!! Mind them 1st 3 will carry over to being 9 months of totaly advertising with how long it all takes for it to get out there and printed etc and then repoated prints. Need a place to run/stroage, stock, web/ebay, phone, e-mail, postal and guts to put up with dam anyoing calls and good ear for funny acents. Oh and a online account say world pay for payments.Pete as for the spoke length thing Id re-check the crossing + lacing. I thought the spokes tarty had sent me were too long but it was just me being silly and lacing them 3x instead of 4xI sorted it in the end. Doggy hub was 1st problem but you have to put a wacking great big twist on these. You twist it so far the spoke cross nearly looking 4x of how the spokes go over the head backing even though it's 3x not 4x. Feel nice in hand the wheel and i'll soon be rididng it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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