roby James124 Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Hi I currently have a Giant Team trial bike. I am going to invest in a new bar and stem. I have decided to get a hope cnc stem and zoo bars. The thing is I don't know what sized Hope stem to get I am currently running a stem 10 degree rise and a length 100mm. So I would like to know if any of you have had past experience with running a longer or shorter no rise more rise, stem on this bike that you could recommend. Regards Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Hey. I have found that having a longer stem with less rise means that the front end of the bike is pulled up higher and the balance angle is much more upright, which means the frame will be pulled closer to your chest. This also means that when dropping it is easyer to hold up the front wheel when landing. imo. And when gapping you may find that there is more room to manouver the bike thus being able to throw your body further forward without hitting the bar making you able to gap further. But this doesnt mean that putting a metre long stem on will make you able to gap like Neil Tunniclife it just means that you wont be able to pull up on the bars to get to back wheel as easy. Haveing a shorter stem with a little rise will make things like spins and manuals easy because the bike is shorter and the weight of the bike is not as far forward. Having rise means that the balanceing point is already quite far up from the horizontal meaning you will be able to pull up toi back wheel easyer. It also means thaty your riding position is changed and when track standing your body is straighter which in my opinion is more comfortable!!! Again it all depends on riding preferance.eg natural, street, park, that kind of thing., And whether you want a big rise on you bars or not. But as you want Zoo's! then they dont have that much rise compaired to the likes of some downhill bars or jump bars which people like to use ase streety bars in trials. So to some up. as an average inbitweeny stem id go for a 15 degree rise and 100mm long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roby James124 Posted July 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Hey. I have found that having a longer stem with less rise means that the front end of the bike is pulled up higher and the balance angle is much more upright, which means the frame will be pulled closer to your chest. This also means that when dropping it is easyer to hold up the front wheel when landing. imo. And when gapping you may find that there is more room to manouver the bike thus being able to throw your body further forward without hitting the bar making you able to gap further. But this doesnt mean that putting a metre long stem on will make you able to gap like Neil Tunniclife it just means that you wont be able to pull up on the bars to get to back wheel as easy. Haveing a shorter stem with a little rise will make things like spins and manuals easy because the bike is shorter and the weight of the bike is not as far forward. Having rise means that the balanceing point is already quite far up from the horizontal meaning you will be able to pull up toi back wheel easyer. It also means thaty your riding position is changed and when track standing your body is straighter which in my opinion is more comfortable!!! Again it all depends on riding preferance.eg natural, street, park, that kind of thing., And whether you want a big rise on you bars or not. But as you want Zoo's! then they dont have that much rise compaired to the likes of some downhill bars or jump bars which people like to use ase streety bars in trials. So to some up. as an average inbitweeny stem id go for a 15 degree rise and 100mm long Thankyou for the excellent reply It was very useful but the last bit has changed my idea because I ride alot more street than natural so would I be better getting some azonic sidewalls with a bit more rise on the bars than the zoo bars. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 No bother. Some people might say that zoo bars are streety but when you consider they are just using them to side hop and drop off stuff then thats not really steet is it??I run the azonic double walls and they are soo good for riding street. I also run a 90mm stem I think with bout 15 degrees rise. The bars are 2.5 inch rise and the bike feels luvly. that should suit your giant perfectly. Should bunny hop really easy.Youll have to think where you put your steerer tube stackers though on top or below just have a play about and see what you like.Plus man a set of azonics and a hope stem will look lurvly well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roby James124 Posted July 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 No bother. Some people might say that zoo bars are streety but when you consider they are just using them to side hop and drop off stuff then thats not really steet is it??I run the azonic double walls and they are soo good for riding street. I also run a 90mm stem I think with bout 15 degrees rise. The bars are 2.5 inch rise and the bike feels luvly. that should suit your giant perfectly. Should bunny hop really easy.Youll have to think where you put your steerer tube stackers though on top or below just have a play about and see what you like.Plus man a set of azonics and a hope stem will look lurvly well done. Thanks for all your help. I dont just do drop offs and side hops I do 180 drop offs and things simular to that and would like to have my riding like some one like john shrewsbury. So I have decided to get Azonic double walls in silver and then a black hope stem 90mm 10 degree rise stem. This will also help me because I can bunnyhop my jump bike quite well but cant bunnyhop my trials bike too well so this might help. Thanks again Rob Validate this guy he is very helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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