HAHA... don't get a t-bird for £140 the Base TA20 is such a good bike, and who cares if its ugly, would you rather have a nice looking bike that rides wank, or a wank looking bike that rides nice? try and haggle him down to about £120, make sure everything works on it they are a good starter bike, but if your not a beginner, a Onza T-pro if another great bike Chris