Hello, If you want an immense brake then i think you should go for plazmatic crm pads, i run the crm's on an 06 echo rim, light and sharp grind, best slightly worn and a smidge of tar. also the pads have a very good wear rate, i got told with my grind that the crm's wouldn't last 2 weeks but its now been over a month and there is still three quarters of the pad left! if you set your pads up properly and your pads aren't hitting the rim and funny angles then your brake will be really good, then you'll get Maximum bite and stopping power. you could of just used the search, theres proprably 1 of these topics on every page! plazmatic crm pads, light sharp grind, little tar. Tim.