Ive had three stock frames so far, a ZOO! Pitbull 07, a Toxsin one and a KOXX LB 1065. Now the ZOO! was nice but i had mod/stock which i didnt like, the Toxsin was lush and the KOXX i never actually rode, out of those three the Toxsin wins but im soon to have a GU 07 which im hoping will whip them all up. lol Hope ths helps, Adam