Thanks for all the comments, and ill try that hooking tip ill give it a go today. Haha Ben u pleb you said i could use that song i fort it actually went quite well i wish i had got my hook to downtube on film i chrisened it that day. Cheers Crank Bolt was the best ride iv'e had in Haworth since iv'e rode Trials. Thanks for all the comments, keep them comeing love you. Ross.