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Hey guys, i will definately be up for the Edinburgh section of you plan and i have a few other guys near me that will be interested.
I wont be able to make the Glasgow part, not just now anyway...
However i am really not that good a rider and havent been out on the bike in ages so i might just come spectate and get to know people finally.
Awesome plan though!
Cheers
Awesome man! Nah, bring the bike and mates! I'm no good at all at trials to be honest! But I still love it!
Will be in touch closer the date.Steve
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Don't forget to stress relieve the wheel after you've tensioned it.
Wheel is all built up and stress relieved. It is by no means perfect but I think It's pretty good for a first attempt (or third attempt at building the same wheel!)
It is as goddamm true as I can get it and can't see any visible hops or lowspots in it. Thanks for all the info/advice. If you didn't live so far away Cormac, I'd have got you to build it! Would have saved me some hassle and there would lashings of jaffa caykes in it for you too! 
Thanks again lads,Steve
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Hey,
Here she is, my first trials bike.
Spec:
'04 Echo Pure frame
Echo 2007 rear rim on Shimano STX-RC hub and Intense 2.5 DH tyre (just built up and had a grind put on today!)
Front Deep-V rim on Shimano hub and DMR Moto tyre
Front + Rear maggies
Onza T-Bird cranks
Wellgo pedals
Club Roost bars
DMR tensioner
Steel forks
24/7 stem
Titanium seat and cut down seat post.
Thanks to Jakers for the complete build, and thanks to thefletch, Dale-Hill and gr8grumble for a some of parts for it. Comments welcome! Cheers,
Steve
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Any chance of a quick snap from each side? Hard to tell at the mo, but it looks a bit like the non drive side is 2x laced which would explain the issue...
I disassembled it last night at just laced it up again a while ago. Followed Jon's guide that he linked. I've built it up 3 cross again and I think it's sorted but I've yet to rack up the tension. In 3 cross, do you go over the first two crosses and underlace the last? Or will it be ok without underlacing? Cheers,
Steve
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Try reading this too,
http://ponkan.quickshareit.com/share/wheel...ng_10147354.pdf
It's what I use for my wheel builds
Cheers Jon! -
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Three things:
1. The spoke lengths look like they were chosen to be laced 4 cross rather than 3 cross. The end of the spoke should be flush with the back of the spoke nipple when the wheel is fully tensioned if the spoke lengths are exactly right. They should be within 2mm of this (Given spokes are available in 2mm increments). You'll never get tension on these spokes as they are.
2. Spokes from the left hub flange should be laced to the spoke holes offset to the left in the rim. Lacing them to cross over each other as you have (I think from the picture) will build a wheel with more lateral strength than standard lacing, but the spoke nipples are likely to bind in the rim as you try to turn them under tension as they're pulled at too tight an angle in the spoke hole in the rim.
3. Nice tablecloth...
Disassembled the hole thing earlier. Will try lacing it up using 4 cross tomorrow at work (Yes at work. There's nothing else to do). I used a mixture of the wiki and sheldon brown guide.....May have been my downfall. I'll let you know how I get on Cormac.
Steve
PS. I like the tablecloth too.
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Drugs are bad
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Limewire is crap. Azureus + setting up portforwarding f t w. 80-100kps d/l and limit the u/l to maximise d/l rate. Takes a lot of fiddling around until you find right config for your ISP. Sorry I'm no help with your Limewire problem.
Steve
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Where did you count turns from? Best place to start is get all nipple tightened up the the edge of thread on spokes, then do full turns from that point. As they get tight, start to use half and quarter turns. fine tuning as you go until the wheel is true is all directions with spoke tension even as possible.
Started with six full turns. Then 2 by 3 full turns and then until the thread started to poke out of the nipple. Then proceeded to do just one full turn on each nipple around the rim. Each spoke/nipple is tightened the same amount but the non-drivesdide are about 60% tensioned and the non-driveside about 20%. Think it must be the spoke lengths......
Steve
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got the spokes in the correct side? usually the shorter length go on the drive side.
Yep. 258mm spokes on the drive side. Gonna try and loosen the driveside a little and tighten the non-driveside and see how that works out.
Steve
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Hi,
I've just spent the last three hours lacing up my new Echo rim. I ordered the rim and spokes from Tarty Bikes. I'm using my old hub from the last wheel. The problem I have is that after lacing it up and raking up the tension to about 60%, the hub isn't centered. I was very careful to put the same amount of turns on each nipple. When I look through the holes in the rim the driveside flange is centered in the hole and there is a major bulge out on the non-driveside spokes. The spoke lengths I got were 258mm for the driveside and 260mm for the non-driveside.
Is this a problem with the spoke lengths? Should they be the same length? Or have I seriously messed up the wheel build (which I don't think I have). Would be grateful if anyone can give advice. I'll put up a pic of the wheel in the next few mins. Cheers,
Steve
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I might give i a shot steve, nothing too fancy, but I made a CNC crank for my HND project last year, so have a little experiance.
Cheers Jake! Looking forward to seeing it!
Steve
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Does it have to be all professionally done or can you just open up paint and get drawing?
Something maybe on CAD or Sketchup would be good. Like the measurements/spacing would be handy. But have a go off Paint if you like!
i definately understand the satisfaction of home projects and doing things yourself. all the luck to you mate(Y)Cheers mate
Steve
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if OD404 or HS Steve see this, and feel like they want to post. I thikn they know all there is to know about this subject. I recall a lot of uploaded images of images from some FANCY machine that tested stress over a booster, with a thermal image of area's that attracted the most stress etc.
Without real R&D like this, you're only ever 'designing' a shape of metal...
Anything is better than nothng i suppose, but it's tough to do a really good one...
Cheers for the reply mate. To be honest it's just a test really. My friend will make me a couple for free and I really don't feel like buying one and paying postage to Ireland.
Even if someone has a go at the bolt hole spacing and basic shape, it would be a great help!Cheers,
Steve
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Hi,
I said I would I would put this in here rather than in Trials Chat. I'm thinking of getting my mate to machine a 4 bolt booster for me. Just wondering has anyone had a go at designing their own booster? I would appreciate if someone handy at CAD or Sketchup would have a go at drawing one up. The best design will get their designed booster posted to them.
My mate works in an engineering company, who specialise in custom brackets, pins and parts. My frame is a 2004 Echo Pure. Not sure what the spacing of the mounts are. Can get measurements if you want. Thanks in advance and looking forward to seeing the designs! Cheers,Steve
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Right lads, I just booked the flights.
Flying to Glasgow Prestwick on Friday 29th of August. Staying in Glasgow Friday night if Rob will still have us (thank you kindly sir!). Maybe go out on the town Friday night. Ride Glasgow Saturday. Saturday evening me and my mate will head to Edinburgh. Boozy night in Edinburgh for the end of the Edinburgh festival!
And ride Edinburgh on Sunday. We then will hang around Edinburgh until Tuesday. Flying home midday Tuesday the 2nd of September from Glasgow Prestwich. How does that sound?Cheers,
Steve
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ride BUMP.
Anyone else up for travelling? Or can organise a few other riders to turn up? Cheers,Stev
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Got a random text tonight, ends up being a girl I used to work with 3 years ago!
Meeting up with her tomorrow night for the laugh. Can't remember what she looks like though......could backfire on me.... 
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i may come home for that weekend and crash at danny's house get a group from leeds up and go out and get mad with it on the saturday night in edinburgh?
Do it man! Come up, go out and ride!
Check back for exact dates! Cheers,Steve
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Echo 07
Cheers Danny! I will probably go for the 2007 Echo's alright.
Cheers for the reply. Steve
Im pretty sure they still make them, in canada we have them out the ying yang.I think they are still available in the US and Canada but very hard to find here. Cheers for the reply.
Steve
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I've been wanting to ride Glasgow for ages, so I'll try make it down, it's a fair trip from Ness though so I'll see!
Cool man! You should definitely come along if you can! Will be posting up in a few days with the dates so keep checking the thread! Cheers,
Steve
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Hi,
I'm trying to find an Alex DX32 rim, but can't find them on CRC or anywhere else. Are Dx32's still being made or are they rebranded? My mate is running a BMf on the rear and it near bombproof!
If not, then can someone recommend something similar. i.e. Strong as f**k, holds a grind well and a resonable price. Cheers,Steve
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