Matt Vandart

Well yes if you look at the proper dodgy breeds. However unselective breeding can cause even worse problems. Golden retrievers for example have become a very big problem in America and is the third most likely dog to bite a human, people are naturally cautious of dogs like pitbulls and rotweilers (1st and second) but golden retrievers have a perceived image of happy family softies even though they are very big and powerfull dogs, many are larger than your average pitbull, this is due to puppy farms churning them out. You do have to take into consideration that many of the smaller breeds are complete and utter c**ts but the outcome is not so devastating, many small dog bites go unreported. Anyway this is going west a bit, as was stated above the actual dog that is to undergo training is assessed very carefully before it is accepted for training no matter what breed.

JT that's just not correct in my experience, I'm not saying it doesn't happen. These dogs go through very specific physical, response, temperament and psyhc. tests,you can't just train any old dog this stuff. For a start you would be surprised how many dogs will NOT bite a human no matter how much you train it. It is not breed specific either, no matter what the media will tell you, no particular breed is more likely to take to it than others. The reason dogs bite people (that are not trained to) is down to early development and training (or lack of more specifically) If the dogs don't pass these tests they are not trained (by people who know what they are doing anyway) because basically it's a waste of time and money, the dog will either just not take to it or you end up with a dog with a f**ked head that is no use. Like I said above I have lived with dogs trained like this my whole life apart from a few years here and there, none of them have ever attacked a family member however NO dog should ever be left alone with small children (toddlers) EVER.

Lolz, yeah you found me out. I have explained above.

Never had a problem before and I grew up in a house with them as well. Used to climb all over them and pull their ears and shit, I used to ride one of them like a horse when I was really small. dont do any of that now, well I sometimes pull their ears lolz

No the dogs are trained to respond to the whole family. I think I am going to put their training on hold till I have cleared this up. On a related note, this is f**ked: http://wusa9.com/news/article/203682/373/Vicious-Dogs-From-DC-Attack-Euthanized

Ah, I hadn't thought of that, thanks. Well one example of something that occurred where I used to live was some dudes broke into a house round the corner from us, chap came home while they were there. They jumped him, gagged him, tied him to a radiator and proceeded to rob everything in the house carpets and all. Loads of other shit like that went down, another guy had his head stoved in with a shovel while he was kipping on the sofa, another guy tried to cut his way through the dudes front door, two doors up,with a chainsaw ( a trained police dog was used in that situation as a distractor while the copper smashed his head in from behind) the junkie situation just got mental,which is why we finally left. I also got stabbed once by a junkie who didn't even demand f**k all, just wired, and if you have ever been in this situation you will know that however much training you have had, when shit gets real your pretty f**ked. Luckily it hit my pelvic bone in my hip so just a nasty cut and alot of blood. Our house was robbed once when we were sleeping, which was when I decided to get another dog, we hadn't had one for a couple of years, and we were not robbed again. I couldn't go away to work leaving my family in that shit without at least some deterrent or protection. As my business is currently struggling along with many others at the moment there is a chance we will have to move back to that house which is currently rented out, although I have heard it has calmed down alot there in the last 6 years. What my question really is: would a trained dog be treated the same as an untrained dog in the eyes of the law? I would be devastated if one of my dogs got put down for protecting my family and doing what it was trained to do. Surely a trained dog is less of a risk to the community than an untrained dog?

Lolz, @ Simpson- I have reasons that I will not go into here in detail. One is I am not always here, I have a family, I go away sometimes for months, its not so bad where I live now but more of a hangover from where we used to live, if we have to move back they will already be trained, so that is good I am also old enough and wise enough from experience to know that I don't give a f**k how hard you think you are, you're pretty much f**ked against multiple attackers/intruders, trained dogs evens things up a bit. Also why not?

Ok dudes I have 2 dobermans that are going through protection training. I have always had protection trained dogs and have recently been told that if my dogs do carry out their trained duties, i.e bite an aggressor I could be liable for prosecution and a civil case. Does anyone know the actual facts of this?

that was awesome, I rekon Jesus would approve.

Get a commencal absolut sx is a great all-rounder.

I use olive oil, it lubes it, then it goes hard, lolz No really it works

Thats what I am thinking

Yah its with the giant I have a problem. I have been making adjustments and doing the local circuit I do normally and it just isn't working out tidy beans. Maybe I am just expecting too much from the bike. Also the shock has started pissing oil now so I have swapped it out for a coil spring at the cost of 0.3" of travel ride is transformed, I just hope the shock is still in Warranty.

This Because of this. I wasn't flaming. Your age has everything to do with it, I was saying close the topic to save you further shame now and in the future. When you are older you will realise what a daft idea this was. Remember we were all fourteen once and now can look back and see how dumb and also naive we were then, sometimes it is better to listen to what older people are saying to you because sometimes, believe it or not older more experienced people are actually correct. As you have found in this thread.

Its almost impossible to equaly tension a trials rim, probably the closest I have come to equal tension is with rear TR rims

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This kid is 14 just close the topic

Off topic but related to above post. What frame is he riding these days in the gt vids?

Put a pic up of your head tube

I'm afraid I disagree you will get some forks for £50 +postage but you will have to be on ebay loads. I got my drop offs for £60 so thats close. I rekon a set of old bombers would do you for now, the pre 2003 ones are best. I belive Leon has some for sale. I'll ask him. UNLESS you have a tapered sterer.

Am I missing the point of that comment Luke? I have a commencal Sx bike with 24" wheels 170mm cranks and going round corners with the bike laid down have no issues whatever with clearance as obviously I have the outside pedal down or are you talking about pedalling round corners which inst gonna happen with the bike laid right down, on berms where you may be peddaling, you are essentially on the flat at a funny angle.

disc= simple rimbrakes= shite But to be fair what jump bike has vees or even brakes these days. Personally I prefer 24" for dirt jumping, just feels weird with 26" for me, but I used to ride bmx on trails so....

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Yes i was thinking it may be the frame because my float r shock I had on my commencal had no problems with bottoming out except on big drops obviously, maybe my shock is just f**ked?