ghostrider88

I will be buying new freewheel and just swap springs from my old SL

Pawls are what break, so I won´t be using those lol.

Best vid of the year.

Neither of those.

I did and I know it´s only a theory, just like he said. No other freewheel fails like this. End of. I hope Deng really is trying to figure out what went wrong and will sort it out.

I doesn´ t matter if it has billion engagements when the pawls/outer rings break after short period of time.

Yeah it is a repost, it´s like 2yo afterall...

Thanks

Ok now please read the rest of that post

Yes

In both acs and SL when pawl is in engaged position it sits fully in the ratchet, so in that way it´s really the same. But, when acs skips(which happens a lot), it puts more stress on the pawl because of that less fine ratchet, it´s "harder" skip as the next ep is much further, SL hadn´t even skipped on me, the pawl just broke. Also my freewheels are always clean, I don´t ride in the mud or even rain. I also spray teflon lube in it every month or so, just for peace of mind. When I took it apart everything I found was pawl broken in half,ratchet was fine and everything was clean. same with the one of my friend which was only 3weeks old and he isn´t a monter by any means and was using rockman 72 freewheel before for 2seasons, it was skipping all the time, but the pawls held just fine. Mark I have one question for you, could you tell me if I could use SL springs in others fw? The slot where it sits looks the same, but I´m not sure and this is what I would like to do with my new freewheel. Thanks. The lockring has normal treads on it, it isn´t easy to take off but with the right tool it isn´t that hard. I did it without one using small punch and hammer, just put the removal tool in the vice and use the punch to loosen it up.

Of course acs freewheels aren´t in the same league, but if pawls didn´t snap in those, that means they were using better material for them obviously, they skipped a lot and the pawls still held up. I wanted to use chain example as well, I think we can all agree chain is just as important as freewheel, but you can buy 610hx chain for 5pounds, FIVE. So even if you change chains every 3months which deffo isn´t neccessary if you don´t ride 20hours/week you get 3full years for 60quids. And most people don´t ride in winter or at least don´t ride as much, so that number most likely is closer to 4years. So as you can see, just because the part is important it doesn´t mean it has to be expensive and anyone should spend loads of money on it. Do you think SL freewheel costs 4-5times more to make than ACS?I honestly don´t. And believe you me I would be happy to buy it for that price if I knew the quality is the same as when they released them. During the first 2years I think noone here mentioned snapping a pawl and there were quite a few topics about them and freewheels in general, if anything bad happened it was snapped outer ring, everyone seemed to recommend them, me included. So something has to be different nowadays, it isn´t just a case of bad luck when in small group of people 3 out of 4 have problems with them.

Now you are talking shit and you know it Ali, there is Gilles

80 pounds is a LOT for such a simple part, acs freewheels cost like 10-15 quids, I haven´t seen many broken pawls in those and not so long ago they were very popular. Same goes for tensile. So what are you paying for? More EP´s have nothing to do with pawls breaking if you wanna bring that up btw, it´s deffo material or heat treatment what´s causing this. And the most important part is, that for the first generation of SL freewheels two years was a standard, not something uncommon. If they were like this from the start, I believe not many would recommend them. The fact they don´t skip might actually make it worse, because you don´t expect it to fail when it all out of sudden does. With other freewheels you know something is not ok when they skip and you actually can do something with it, take it apart and give it a clean. In case of SL when they skip, you know it´s time for a new one since spare parts are not avaible.

Thanks, bike looks very nice and I usually don´t like red frames

If you don´t mind how much was the frame?

It really isn´t the same, the LGM pads are still the same, some people like them, some don´t. Everybody used to like the first generation of SL freewheels besides Rusevelt who f**ked it up himself. You cannot deny that since they stopped producing silver version they fail a lot more, just like greetings who sold them a lot no doubt confirmed in the other thread. They are different and no longer the ultimate freewheel IMO, which is sad because it seemed that freewheel choice wasn´t no longer a question. But it is, again.

I would say expecting 2seasons from expensive freewheel isn´t too much. Especially after my try all lasting me three and after another full season is still working flawlessly.

I haven´s seen a freewheel which wasn´t slightly egg shaped, but this was just too much.

Because sending parts like freewheel to UK from Slovakia is a lot of hassle and really not worth it, if I lived in the UK I would don´t worry. Also your bedding in theory is mistaken since SL´s are the only freewheel which don´t require this. So yeah, you are just lucky or don´t put enough power down the drivetrain.

I would say the pawls breaking might have something to do with heat treating process in connection with higher tolerances for other parts of the freewheel, My newer SL was all crooked and egg shaped.

It may not be a "real" comp, but they were getting points like in normal comp...Aurelien is one of the most stylish riders with Hege for sure though.

At this point I would say most of the freewheels are better, they might skip more, but most likely their pawls/outer shells won´t break after few weeks/months. If you used sl springs in other freewheels like try all 108.9 or rockman I believe they would be the same as original SL´s were.

I don´t think so, sorry, they are shite.

Only people who haven´t tried the new ones?They are absolutely shocking, period.