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Is our star called Sol or am I thinking of something else? EDIT: of usually has an "f" in it

9) Urinate somewhere you obviously shouldn't

Neither is trials, we're all going to seize up by the time we're fifty

Go Humans (Y)

It definately encourages playing with guns though

No, because there is no punishment, only reward. If by doing better just reduced a punishment, and doing worse increased it, you would be regarded as a slave, if your doing better increased a reward, and your doing worse decreased it, you would be a servant. The only punishment comes from yourself, which God has promised to forgive. (Just out of pure trivia, according to the Bible, the only unforgivable wrong doing is speaking bad of the holy spirit... bet you didnt know that (Y) )

To Tomm: The quote on Jesus being killed by Jews is from the Torah; granted the Torah is just the Bibles old testemant. The Bible has not told me to believe that Jihad requires the killing of non believers, the Qur'an did (I just searched it just to make sure I wasnt talking babble :P ) So what have I used as an argument that comes from the Bible? Except going to heaven the Christian way, but that was relevant to defend Christianity. You've obviously heard of the Pagen religion, and so has everyone if you ask them, most of our traditions, such as holly, and yule logs (choclate logs) are pagen traditions. I did a school play on paganism when i was a kid. And again, nothing in the Bible told the christians to kill the pagens, they were just scared and stupid, if they had followed the Bible they would have been relentlessly knocking on the pagens doors just as they were about to start dinner in an effort to convert them. Whereas, the Qur'an teaches Jihad. And killing.

To Jimbo Limbo: No its not friendly at all. But the words "Protestant" and "catholic" never appear in the Bible, so I'm sure it has nothing to do with that. It does, however, mention Jihad in the Qur'an, and does associate killing for Allah with it. See the difference? And Ive just been browsing through an on line Qur'an, and it refers to Muslims as Allahs slaves; thats not very nice

Maybe we will try to go to a new planet, and we will find one, infested with talking monkeys, so we try to destroy it, but it was Earth all along... :P

I dont understand what you mean :">

Or, if you manage to persuade your fiance to let you bring your bike to the wedding... ahem :">

No, actually, you dont need to believe in God and worship him to enter heaven, as i explained prior. It helps if you do to get a better place in heaven, but say theres a really nice bloke who lives in Umba-bunga land who hasnt got the slightest fig about christianity - being nice generally is the basis of christianity, he will gain a place in heaven. Being an overzealous disciple of Christ and bugging the rest of the world telling them about God with all your heart mind and soul might earn you a better place in Heaven. The way you end up in hell is that you chose to go there, by giving in to what you know is not very nice, and after youve done it, you dont feel any remorse and you want to do it again. Obviously, these temptations have to be a little bit more than stealing a sweety. And God will forgive you if you are truly sorry as well, I dont know if thats the same case with Islam, (would someone care to enlighten me?) Still I say again; why should a peaceful religion beat up those who dont attend prayer sessions? Its not the extremities of terrorists that I am talking about; Its the fact that Christians are persecuted in Muslim countries as we speak, purely for practicing Christianity. In Italy, the home of the pointless Pope, you dont hear of Muslim missionaries fearing for their lives and having to worship in secret, do you? EDIT: I really enjoy a good discussion like this - It gets the old grey muscle going like a good'un

*Proceeding to make the thread as messy as his bedroom again* You cheeky bugger and your supereditthread powers :P

I try explaining trials to people using the finger bike - it really doesnt work and you just end up looking stupid :P"

How can you tell the exaggerated bits exactly? Have I been unconsciously typing them in bold or something? EDIT: By your logic, if you were to say, as many do and have done on this forum - that Christianty and Jesus are rubbish, you would admit to being a rascist yourself?

But the difference is that you have no choice if you arent a Muslim, you will die and not go to heaven, Suleman WILL get you, whereas Christianity says satan can only get you if you let him. He has no power over you, only that which you give him. Its easy to get into heaven, its how close to God you will be when you get there that is the trouble... I agree that the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful - meaning they must disagree with what their religion teaches, it is Allahs will that jihad be declared, so all Muslims are involved, unless its Islamic religious leaders using religion for an excuse to kill and steal like the Christian crusades were. Jews believe that Jesus was crucified - forget fact for a minute - and they also believe in the Torah. They do not believe Jesus was the Messiah, but they do believe in the Torah which says that they will kill a man who they do not beleive to be the Messiah, they will mock him and pierce his body. Whether these are fact or not, the Jews believe both things, which proves (in their eyes) that the Torah is right because they did do that, and like the Torah said, they did not believe he was the Messiah. So they are contradicted by that, are they not? The fact that they read the whole book in their church services over the course of the year apart from Isiah 53, which says about Jesus death at the hands of the Jews, seems very fishy to me. How can they deny something written by the ministers of their own religion? The equivilent to this would be Jehovah's Witness's as a sector of Christianity. They took the Bible, and re wrote some of it, and removed Revelation 22:18-19 (I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described it this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book) which all together, doesnt quite add up. As I said before, which religion would you choose; one where your love can earn you a good place in heaven, or one where violence will guarantee you get to heaven in the first place.

Shame on you... poor car

And what about the end of the world? I dont want Suleman to get me

Your eyes automatically focus on a bike riding past rather than on a pair of breasts, like they used to

It definately says that when Suleman comes at the end of the world, anyone who doesnt worship him will be killed. Not very nice. I'd rather have a religion that says that anyone can enter the kingdom of heaven, rather than, follow me or die! Wouldnt you?

But it is true that Jihad requires them to kill someone to gain entrance to heaven, and that Suleman will command all Muslims to kill everyone else at the end of the world? It doesnt say Suleman will command the Al Qaeda to kill everyone else and all the other Muslims don't need to kill anyone. It says they all should. Not just a select group. So thats not the same as the BNP representing Britain is it?

Chris do you wanna come out riding when you get your Leeson and Jim Paine gets his Pitbull? I still got my TPro, feeling a bit left out...

Its really weird to be messing about on it and suddenly see "trials forum rocks" springing to life on your screen... :P

Its like with everything really - i know christians who are all so holy, but in real life they are complete twats who wouldnt help ayone but themselves. apology accepted! :P EDIT: Its not that im narow minded and having a go at muslims, or jews; i just want to understand why some things are done the way that they are. People criticise christianity all the time, and i try my best to explain myself, but its still interesting to hear peoples opinions on these topics.

I too think the human race will have long killed itself off before the world ends. It'll probably be a very slow process, with the sun cooling down, and all life on earth gradually wasting away. Then the sun will become a white dwarf or something and then all the life left that didnt need light or heat will be burnt to a crisp. All the water on Earth will boil away, along with the atmosphere, leaving a big barren rock.