*to revell bikes* as im abit of an oldy when it comes to trials, i absolutely hate all the new trials companies that are out at the moment, frames are too long, too low and have no seat, they look silly since it has mountain bike wheels on it, wheres i like to have a seat on my stock, but then back to the norco frames, knowing what i know now, they're probably not really the sort of frame for me then since im not so hot with manuals etc, probably look at getting a lesson but then everyone has one so it won't feel special. i dunno...