BEEN RIDING BIKES SINCE I COULD GET ON ONE!! BEEN A MECHANIC FOR OVER 10 YEARS AND I HAVE USED CANTI'S, U-BAKES, V'S, DISCS (CABLE AND HYDRO) AND MAGURAS IT' A FACT THAT CABLES SNAP AT THE NIPPLE IN THE LEVER AND WERE THERE BOLTED ON THE ARM, THEY CAN PULL THROUGH THERE ASWELL. AND I MEAN ANY CABLE WILL FROM CHEAP TO GORTEX CABLES!!! I WAS ASK TO TRY XTR V'S ONCE TO SEE NOW GOOD THEY WERE AND I USED THEM FOR 2 WEEKS ON STREET, OFFROAD AND IN ONE COMP!!!! AND IN THAT TIME I TORE OUT 3 SLIDE IN PADS AND 2 NORMAL BOLT IN TYPE, BROKE 2 CABLES, 4 NOODLES, SNAPED AN ARM ON THE FRONT AND BENT A REAR.. I WILL SAY I TRYED THE AVID V'S AND THAY ARE GOOD!! BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE CRUNCH I DON'T TRUST THEM!!!! THE MAGURAS ON MY BIKE AT THE MO HAVE BEEN ON THERE OVER 3 YEARS AND HAVE NOT BEEN TOUCHED EX FOR PAD CHANGE.... IT ALL DEPENDS ON WAT KIND OF TRIALS RIDER YOU ARE!!!!!!