oioi.........no offence to you at all but f**k you! rob since ive seen the light and gone maggie up front im running heatsink blues .... now u know how good my brakes have to be so just think about it........ well hear we go heatsink blues from heatsinkbikes.com so far no wear at all silly light grind or even a ded one hold so dam well even in the wet cheap as chips trust me heatsink pads are all you will ever need ....... well to be honnest heatsink pads is what every trials rider needs dont know why people rant over the other brands as not one of them can compare to the heatsink brand