hey i had a set of try all's........i really did love mine they have decent ankle support a soft sole so u really have a fel for the peddals.......amazingly grippy and lasted me about 11 months and that was riding most days at the end of 11 months they were actually wasted......i wanted to try somthing new i went from a pair of trials specific shoes to skate shoes......i would rate skate shoes just as much as i do my try alls.............duffs skate shoes amazingly grippy and long lasting..............vans..also have some verry good shoes for riding ...............but yeah get your self some try alls and when they die get a decent pair of skate shoes and you will be suprised how skate shoes work so well hope this is any help