Nick Dale Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Hey im having diffuculty doing wheel replacment's on anything higher then about 20" i ride mod and find it difficult to get to my back wheel trying this move. All i want to know really is what is the technequie (sp?) of this move as when i do it i have to kick on the pedal's i can't just jump and chuck the bike up (Y) How do i go about replacing wheel's without the kick? More importantly, how do i do it on somthing higer then my wheel's :- Thank's for any help (Y) Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pork Pie Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Don't use your rear brake when doing it (Y) Without it, you can really flex your forks and it gives you alot of spring to jump up. I think doing the move successfully is all about confidence to be honest. It's a wierd feeling at first, being really steep and having no rear brake locked. Try starting off at about 26". Then turn your bike slightly, so it begins to get more parallel to the wall, with your rear foot nearest the wall, so you have more room. Then it's a case of really leaning down over the bars, and bursting upwards. By the way, focus on going upwards, not forwards onto the wall, this'll come naturally. Yeah, so when you've burst, explode with your arms as you'd do for a normal backwheel and you'll be sorted. I know it seems odd, but practising on a thin wall has its advantages. You can really pinch the front wheel, which adds to the spring the bike naturally gives you :- It's all about practise (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb88 Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 What he said ^ (Y) . I also have my hands on the grips differently - further forward, and i really learn forward just before the big leap. Then just burst and get your back wheel on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne-king Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 (edited) the key is learning how to use the brakes, i start with both brakes on, then as i lunge up, i let the rear brake off so the rear wheel effectively rolls up the wall. Edited February 11, 2005 by Wayne-king Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 I've never used the no-back-brake thing. It really puts me off, every time I try it, I end up ramming the back wheel into the wall. So I wouldn't worry about it too much if you can't get the hang of it. Might get your an extra inch or so. But he's right about the thin wall thing. I can go about 3" higher onto a rail than onto just a normal wall. As well as the pinch, I think it's something to do with how you can roll your front wheel over the rail a bit, so it's actually lower, and you're not as steep :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyroo Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 the key is learning how to use the brakes, i start with both brakes on, then as i lunge up, i let the rear brake off so the rear wheel effectively rolls up the wall. ← How do you move off the front wheel with the front brake still on? i dont understand!!! :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 'cos the front wheel doesn't touch the floor after you lift it, so it doesn't matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyroo Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 'cos the front wheel doesn't touch the floor after you lift it, so it doesn't matter? ← But I thought when you were on your front wheel, you release the front brake and then lift the front wheel, so it rolls forwards, then up? Or is that wrong, and the reason why I cant get it right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 remember to tuck the bike right up as-well, and as quick as possible. Crouch over the bars --> Jump/kick ---> massive tuckage ---> hoppy hoppy and smile for the cameras. :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 You need something to pull against/jump off. The rear wheel helps, but you cant use *just* the rear wheel, or it'd be one massive 'boon'. Keep the front brake on throughout (this is for a static move btw), and use the forks/front tyre, as people have said, to help out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyroo Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Ive just realised... :"> I'm talking aboout somethig completely different, a wheelswap, when swap from your front wheel to rear wheel, with your rear wheel suspended behind you... WHOOPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Dale Posted February 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Hey Thanks for the replies guy's i will go out tomorrow and try some of the things you lot have said :- Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Do what all they said up there, and something that might help with the lunge is getting your head over the front axel, then you can kinda 'flick' up more. Also, try to get as close to the wall as possible, but with enough space so your foot doesn't hit it on your way up :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiltop Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 i dont do anything with my brakes, all a bit over complicated, i simply try to ram the frame as high up your arse as you can then push the bike forward. dont bother thinking about going forward till your right up. just aim up and proper yank it. i also find doing it at an angle helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 1. place your front wheel on the obstacle :P" 2. be diagonal to it, with your weak foot close into the obstacle 3. stand tall, towards your bars 4. hop, or do something to gain your balance WITHOUT the rear brake on... 5. crouch down towards the back of your strong foot. 6. jump up and tuck your back end up, while extending your arms at the same time. I find it easier to do it without a back brake on, and without a pedal kick. Also, you may find it easier to do this with your front wheel on the back edge off the obstacle, so you can have some more tyre spring to help. also a low and long front end will help you to master the manoever :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dave Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Its really hard to learn something with just people tryin to explain it through text :P :S if you ever ride with me again :D ill try and teach you, its so easy on your bike ! might be out later today i dont no, if not, most likely tuesday :P Dave :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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