Luke Drewery Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Hi all, ive recently been practicing wheel swaps (where you put your front wheel on the obstacle then hop to backwheel where your front wheel was) and im confused on the technique. I can do wheel height, but i use a small pedal kick, where as im pretty sure nobody else does. I cant seem to get the power without a small pedal kick, but my techniques holding me back on height. So i was wondering how everyone alse does it? Any help would be very much appreciated :P :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 I simply crouch down and then jump upwards shoving my arms up vertically as if i was pedal hopping up something. Thats there is to it I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 i found having your tyres at a lower pressure, made it much easier, i can do fairly high wheel swaps, but having been practicing them switch (let foot forward) and found the spring of a lower pressure tyre did help me. also i found its alot to do with upper body strength, so just keep practising is my true advice cheers ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 You need to be at an angle to the wall to start with, with your good foot furthest away so you can get the bike and rear wheel as tight into the wall as you can. Then it's all about compressing your body and rear tyres slightly before exploding upwards. For bigger swaps it is as much brute strength as technique. Once you've jumped upwards, you need to throw the bike up and in front of you (as you would to back wheel) and place the rear tyre on the wall. I think that's how I do it anyway... Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted April 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 You need to be at an angle to the wall to start with, with your good foot furthest away ← I already do that, its just i struggle to get any power without a small pedal kick, i cant use a straight hop up for some reason Ps Cheers for the replys :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 This is how I do it: - Get balanced, rear brake off, front brake on. - Let the bike lean a tiny amount towards the obstacle, basically toppling over. - Preload tyres (rear AND front) and forks by crouching down a tad. - Jump upwards HARD, throwing arms up and forward, while bringing bike under you with your legs. - Grab the rear brake. - Land. And like Dave said - at an angle to the obstacle, i try and get my feet/pedals parallel with the obstacle (if it fits ok) Note: Often helps to go sideways a bit, like in the video. And it helps to be tall (you buggers, im only little :lol:) Right Click, Save Target As Hope that helps... Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted April 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 (edited) Cheers for the vid adam, is it supposed to cut off just before he hops? I shall try using more power and spring... Edit, sorry, vid works properly now, cheers :lol: Edited April 7, 2005 by scunnytrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Cheers for the vid adam, is it supposed to cut off just before he hops? ← Hmm, nope! I left the whole move in, the pallets wobble like a bitch when I land on top :lol: Should be 10 secs long... Edit: Ah, good stuff :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishwog Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Ye argh you bugger, I've been trying 5 pallets for ages now, and I would have said my height lets me down, but your not very tall either are you Adam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Im a shortly at a mere 5ft 8 and a bit :lol: Tis the bike I tell thee :P" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted April 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Well im just over 6ft so i have a slight advantage, but im not as strong as alot of riders on here, its just technique that gets me, i shall try all the things mentioned tommorow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishwog Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Yup I'm 5'9 and have an Echo control 1065..... I can do like 26" I think, bout 3" under 5 pallets ? Either way round I can do 4 easilly now :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted April 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Forgot to mention i run a levelboss 1065, which does feel slightly short for my height Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pork Pie Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Did you make it Adam? :lol: I found I couldn't do it at all with a rear brake on. Without it, you can really flex the buggery out of everything, and really squidge your tyres, and then basically jump and it doesn't actually take that much effort. It was a really awkward feeling at first though, but keep practising using the guidelines up top somewhere, and I'm sure you'll get it soon :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Did you make it Adam? :lol: ← Yeah, did you watch the vid? Can do a bit bigger than that now I think :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted April 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Did you make it Adam? :lol: I found I couldn't do it at all with a rear brake on. Without it, you can really flex the buggery out of everything, and really squidge your tyres, and then basically jump and it doesn't actually take that much effort. It was a really awkward feeling at first though, but keep practising using the guidelines up top somewhere, and I'm sure you'll get it soon :P ← Cheers, he does make it in the vid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 i have done 6 pallets (probably 5 on all blue ones like on tartys video) with both feet forward ( to be seen on my new video when its out) and to be honest, tartys explaination seems perfect to me, although i probably dont pre-load that much, hmm not sure ill let u know next time im out, the video shows pretty much the right kind of thing to be doing as well cheers ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pork Pie Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 (edited) Oh, well in my media player its stops as you are jumping up :lol: Oh, it works now :"> Edited April 7, 2005 by Dave Gill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 hahaah adam u porker, sort them pallets out, howd u make them wobble like that haha sorry off topic, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 iv just gone from one extreme to the other, 5weeks ago i was using a justice 1040ish then a woodstock 1050 on the nose and now on a koxx levelboss (1065 thats 1100) and doing wheel swaps you can just get sooooooooooo much closer to the wall then do what adam says and bobs your uncle its amazing what that extra length can do, but i remember having a go on someones levelboss 1065 when they were 1065 and it was amazing how much better it was to wheel swop on that then! (jonno's bike it was) Waynio........................... it is about practice and technique................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 hahaah adam u porker, sort them pallets out, howd u make them wobble like that haha ← The 4th one up was undersized, ok? :P :lol: it is about practice and technique................. ← :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted April 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Cheers for the replys, just lots of practice now i think :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich4130 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 That vid really helps, I'm gonna go out and try em when it dries up abit, cheers. That bike must be mega long, cos tart looks about 3ft tall, and my ET would be like hooking it at the angle, almost off the floor heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 That bike must be mega long ← 1100 ish wheelbase... rides a lot shorter :lol: Like Waynio said, longer bikes are a LOT easier for this move... some bikes wont even go in the position on the vid without toppling over, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 1100 ish wheelbase... rides a lot shorter :) Like Waynio said, longer bikes are a LOT easier for this move... some bikes wont even go in the position on the vid without toppling over, lol. ← Yeah like mione 4 pallets is my max wheel swapping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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