I´ve been reading about this guy in a similar thread at observedtrials... Seems like many guys (not all) are happy with their deals. At the same time, some are receiving scruffed components, a result from inferior packaging. (But hey, all the way from China, I guess you must deal with the fact that you won´t be shipped a frame in a perfect condition...) Well however! I saw the Echo Pure 05 at Biketrialseller. Do you think this is the real Echo or just a "bad" copy? I don´t understand how they can sell this old, rare frame today 2009? Are they still making them maybe? Is there somebody here that have been riding the Echo Pure 05? After reading so much positive about the Echo Pure 04, what is the difference between them?