Guantanamo Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 i'm thinking of buying an onza zoot. i've read the reviews i the forum and it says about replacing the stem and bars to get optimum setup. anybody recommend any particular bars and stem? what size rise etc? bearing in mind this is my first trials bike.thanks in advanceadamyou should probably know i'm around 5'8" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 erm, im running a 105 x 10* stem, 1cm stacker .... dmr wingbars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guantanamo Posted March 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 erm, im running a 105 x 10* stem, 1cm stacker .... dmr wingbarsthanks, how do you find that over the standard bike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Morton Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 thanks, how do you find that over the standard bike?Get Gu riser bars them are the same geometry as the Zoo riser bars here is a link if you are intrested in them, Look at them. http://www.selectbikes.com/index.php?act=v...p;productId=206 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guantanamo Posted March 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Get Gu riser bars them are the same geometry as the Zoo riser bars here is a link if you are intrested in them, Look at them. http://www.selectbikes.com/index.php?act=v...p;productId=206thanks, what about a stem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Vandart Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) this is the exact same problem I had with my Zoot.I know this sounds mad but I ended up with a 180mm mod stem on mine and I liked that best, but I don't ride street much.I found that the best stem for all round crap, was about 120mm stem with abot 17 degree rise with some riser bars.Matt Edited March 25, 2009 by Matt Vandart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Morton Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 thanks, what about a stem?sorry wouldn't be able to recomend a stem due to me only riding a 20" although if i had to choose i would say Trialtech sport forged http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?pr...;category_id=41 there is a link hope this help's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guantanamo Posted March 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 that's great thanks for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middleageman Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) this is the exact same problem I had with my Zoot.I know this sounds mad but I ended up with a 180mm mod stem on mine and I liked that best, but I don't ride street much.I found that the best stem for all round crap, was about 120mm stem with abot 17 degree rise with some riser bars.Matt(after furiously checking my shed).......Hey, post pictures of your own bloomin' bike next time Mr Vandart! heh heh. Interesting post though Guantanamo, the bike you see above is now mine and Matt provided me with the original Zoot stem and a longer 120mm +6 degree rise stem. Now I'm not really experienced enough to tell you the benefits of either, but I may be right in suggesting a shorter stem for a more steet style (bunnyhops, manuals, spins) and a longer/higher rise stem for more 'Trialsy' moves (tgs). If any Zoot owners, 24" riders or such could expand or correct, that would be great! Oh and advice on riser bars as well please. middleageman. Edited March 26, 2009 by middleageman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guantanamo Posted March 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 was thinking of going with some zoo risers and the Trialtech sport forged stem (120x17) recommended earlier in the thread. would really appreciate some more input though, don't really want to cripple my first bikethanks for your time ladsguantanamo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guantanamo Posted March 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 i apologize for sounding like a complete noob but... what size chain will the zoot run? looking for a single speed kit for the bike (i've bought one now should get it mid april) seen one i like but it says for 3/32" chain only. i'm used to bmx's witht their chunky great chains.thanks in advanceguantanamo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Morton Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 i apologize for sounding like a complete noob but... what size chain will the zoot run? looking for a single speed kit for the bike (i've bought one now should get it mid april) seen one i like but it says for 3/32" chain only. i'm used to bmx's witht their chunky great chains.thanks in advanceguantanamoif you need a 3/32" chain i recommend. Echo Sl yaban Chain , I'm running one on my bike here is a link just incase you are intrested in it http://www.selectbikes.com/index.php?act=v...p;productId=281 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guantanamo Posted March 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 if you need a 3/32" chain i recommend. Echo Sl yaban Chain , I'm running one on my bike here is a link just incase you are intrested in it http://www.selectbikes.com/index.php?act=v...p;productId=281says single speed only, what about running it with a sprung chain tensioner?thanksguantanamo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ding_dong Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 (edited) (after furiously checking my shed).......Hey, post pictures of your own bloomin' bike next time Mr Vandart! heh heh. Interesting post though Guantanamo, the bike you see above is now mine and Matt provided me with the original Zoot stem and a longer 120mm +6 degree rise stem. Now I'm not really experienced enough to tell you the benefits of either, but I may be right in suggesting a shorter stem for a more steet style (bunnyhops, manuals, spins) and a longer/higher rise stem for more 'Trialsy' moves (tgs). If any Zoot owners, 24" riders or such could expand or correct, that would be great! Oh and advice on riser bars as well please. middleageman.pretty much hit the nail on the head, altho i run a 100x15 degree rise zoo stem on my 24" but it has a "traditional" no seat trials geo, rides nice for all round stuff, would be better for "propper trials" moves with a higer stem, but im learning spins n stuff so it all good for me.EDIT: im also running old style zoo! bars plus 10mm of stem spacers/stackers Edited March 28, 2009 by ding_dong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 (edited) 10mm of stackers, a Pazzaz 120mmx20* stem and Pazzaz Carbon Risers (not sure on rise... between 1.5" and 2" though).This is with Echo HiFi forks.You'll want to replace the pedals pretty quick. Before the stem and bars - I reckon. The front end isn't TOO bad - I quite liked it, and I'm 5'8".The pedals - however - are quite slippy, and absolutely destroy your shins.Tyres are a bit heavy, too. Very good, though.Good choice in bike - I bloody love mine.EDIT: This is for a fairly TGS oriented setup. If you want to ride streety trials like Danny Mac, you'll want a higher stem, and even more rise.For this - I'd advise NOT going for an oversized stem clamp. High rise bars in OS 31.8 clamps are uncommon, and never have enough rise. Edited March 28, 2009 by aener Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guantanamo Posted March 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 what type of bottom bracket is it, isis or square? how is it, smooth enough, tough enough?thanksg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guantanamo Posted March 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 decided on the trialtech sport 120x17*. looking at a few different bars though anyone had any experiance of them? they are-> pazzaz riser, GU riser and the viz maxbar.how do i go about setting them up once i have them?thanksguantanamo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guantanamo Posted March 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 decided on the trialtech sport 120x17*. looking at a few different bars though anyone had any experiance of them? they are-> pazzaz riser, GU riser and the viz maxbar.how do i go about setting them up once i have them?thanksguantanamocancel that, i'll be going for thtrialtech sport stem and the trialtech sport riser bars. if anybody wants to make any comments about the setup, please feel free to.thanksadam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam trials Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 i have that set up on my stock and it makes it ride so nice, would have thought it will run ok on 24" because its a fairly long stemwith abit of rise.Adam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guantanamo Posted April 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 i have that set up on my stock and it makes it ride so nice, would have thought it will run ok on 24" because its a fairly long stemwith abit of rise.Adam.how's the rise and sweep on the bars like compared to others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annihilation Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Rise, rise rise. That's what makes a streety bike. My stem is maybe 35deg and 100mm long, and my bars are at about 48deg from the point of the steerer clamp and they're about 3" of rise.You can really feel the difference when you hit a setup that bunnyhops well. It's lovely As for a more TGS style, I don't know. Frankly, I don't understand how you can make a bike not bunnyhop well and it still ride well, so in essence my answer to a TGS setup is, who gives a crap? It IS a 24" after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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