Cheers for the comments the forks are tuf guys that i stripped and lacquered , I hope the threads don't strip have you heard of that happening with these cranks then ? might have to get some tensiles. yeah Ben your more then welcome to come up to witham and ride with me and my mate there are quite a few places to ride the same as any town i guess , and i will no doubt come to chelmsford again i have rode there lots and had fun, pm me and we can organise something