Alex Dark

18:16 for me.... roughly approximates to 18:15 on 175's though

the later rex is an amazing frame, slack head-angled lower bb coust frame; but bombproof. The older rex, well that's an unknown quantity for a lot of people; around 1040 length, minus 5 bb height and around 390cs i think? I wouldn't recommend this bike for starting though, would be quite a pig on the back wheel for a beginner...zebdi-ish geo i think, okay for a seasoned streety rider though seen the user that bought this bike ends in 1978..same as your birth year; so im going to assume you've bought this...bit pointless me posting the above, but oh well

im going to assume he knows him.... If you dont get it heat-treated, the aluminium is around 80% weaker due to the structure of the metal becomign changed during the welding process.. Welding and heat treating should cost around £35 i'd say...

seconded, cant stand that colour, looks horrid..

koxx basically = t-pro Amazing frames none the less though....strong as fook, lush geometry. The echo's bound to be stronger, but i wouldn't have thought by a huge amount....so id say go for the koxx

theres a few moto-trials magazines, but sadly no bike-trials magazines in print at the moment

righto, try-all it is...if i have any problems with it ill build the echo up...thanks for everyone's help

tis a bit of a conundrum

"mmm young boys....." good vid boys...

I would go for one, but... Ive got a brand new try-all eand echo sitting in my room, and the trilatech doesn't come in red

bingo

good little bike that dude, looks swish

im not exatcly heavy...etc, but i do like a nice working brake...and i do tend to rely on it. with my echo im grinding once a month because my grind gets so covered in muck all the time as i have to ride 3+ miles down muddy back lanes to my riding spot

nah ryan leech style

i dont really mind grinding...but surely wont that weaken it far faster? I'm using coust cnc'd if that makes any differnece whatsoever

ideal, thanks dude...ill just see waht anyone else says, but i think im going to have to use the tryall

so you think it'll be fine with my riding? to be fair woody...you are felix mucke standard smooth, so you could probably run dual x519s and get away with it

My current bike has nly cost me £250 to build up... echo rear wheel, zenith frame, zoo bars, echo stem / h.set, meta front wheel 203 bb7, viz forks, echo cnc cranks, tensile FFW etc... Just find a nice frame, and build up slowly wioth bargains off here...or buy a complete bike off here or ebay

Right, completely noobish question : Should i use an Echo rear rim or try-all? Rims being the 07 echo urban, or the newer try-all 47mm. I don't *think* im a basher, but i am going bigger now, and im not the 100% smoothest rider around...although i wouldnt consider myself one of the harshest. I ride street, both tgs and real streety stuff. Had a try-all first, no problems with that although only dropped around 6/7ft on it...then changed to echo 07 which i got for free. So looking to change to a colour-coded, better condition rim. So, would a try-all hold up? both pretty much as new mind...i just dont want to have to case this try-all to find out. I'm doing up to 10ft drops at the moment, u to 7ft static gaps etc, so im not going huge yet. Anyone got any advice for me please? May as well whack a little vote up. I've got both to hand at the moment mind. 170g difference is the main reason I'd try the try-all. Edit: Please put reasons though, not just "echo is da best" oh, and if you know me and my riding style etc, please answer this

yeh just give them a bell, or an email...always been quick to respond to me

the frame coimes with a tensioner anyway; so thats all good

no way.....hans rey, the legend....be immense if he comes, wonder what he'll think of the TGS kids though

http://picasaweb.google.com/44cycles/NewFo...009232086196770 Sh*t me i want a white one

my thoughts exactly...nice looking bike, get some graphics on there though