ha, you on your period connor you seem so angry recently anywho. discs stop the hub rather than maggies/vee which stop the rim.. on a mod you wont notice much flex, but on a stock there is much greater stress on the wheel, you can flex the wheel forwards and backwards with a disc because of flex.. with a maggie it feels a lot more solid and there wont be any flex. with discs, you've also got the problem with bending discs, but with maggies a bent rim will rub your pads... quiet brakes dont make you smoother, they just can make you sound smoother. as there isnt a huuuge screach every time you brake. but if your a basher and have a disc on't back, you will still sound harsh. its all preference really. i prefer my maggie, but i do love riding bikes with a rear disc (especially jon macks). if you ride smooth there is barely any noise and is lovely. also, loud brakes will get you noticed more. if you're riding on privat property making a lot of noise then you'll probably be more likely to get kicked off. if you have discs, you wont make a lot of noise and will probably be more respected. thought about a vee? generally quieter than maggies and still stop the rim rather than the hub. and have amazing hold. think this might have been the most helpfull i've ever been