Meh I've found it more wierd how nobody has actually asked what he wants the car to do or how he wants to drive it.. I do tonnes and tonnes of miles in my car and I'm not too interested in going at a gazzilion miles per hour. What I want is a reliable steed, which I dont have to touch, is good on petrol. has loads of boot room because it constantly has more than 1 bike in., and it pretty nippy so i can enjoy it when needed. Even if i had £16k to play with would I look at getting a Porshe boxter or a Lotus Esprit? No, because it not fit for what I want to use it for. So if topic starter could outline basic things like, milage, what he drives mostly motorways, B roads etc, how he likes driving and what he wants the car to do for him, then it would be more usefull.