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Got to be hope, I use hope and always have done, they have a great warranty policy too, f**k it, send it back and they fix it...FREE!!!!!!! simple Long as u dont tell them its used for trials when you ring up. Apparantly mine are used for dual..Huh...EEEExcellent

Ive been looking at them toxsin frames, they any good for manuals, bunnyhops, 180s, front wheel pivots, hopup manuals etc addressive street struff???

Yak, has stupid angles.......Long stays and a 69 degree head angle..WHAT???? Oh well nice try

I need some good info on bike frames etc..And ideas, want good photos too of diff bikes

I know exactly what you mean, I do ride rocks but ones on the shore, sea defense stuff.... Street is where my interest lies..

Nice yan...cheers. Doubt its any good for me though... NOT A bad idea..Im the same height as Jeff but, he rides a diff style than me, similar I guess but more bmx style moves, wall rides n that..His style has really changed since evolve. Not as good I dont think now. Do you know where to get info on them, and a dealer? Prices also

Exact same as me huh??? Well I cant have that, I will have to change my style totally.....5'10! Mad aint no good for me Im afraid, Im a rough git and Id smash it... Well I didnt say 'I want a short frame' BUT, I know what you mean. The control was the first new type I looked at as I thought 'Wow that looks kool', again BUT, The thing is I want a frame that will stretch me out slightly but still be able to throw about like a rag doll, I want a bit of breathing room as Im 6'4 and feel the pashley might be cramping my style, so to speak, I guess what is important here is a feeling of room in the front triangle of the frame...You see?

Is there anyone who agrees with my previous post? Surely Im not alone on this one?

Hmm... argh... Its a possibility I suppose, but they are expensive in comparison aint they? Bikes like zoo, echo etc are really cheap now 299 ish so thats the budget im aiming for as you should be able to get a good frame for that.. I dont know

NO, thats yank money and a yank dealer so the price here could vary. Everythings cheaper in the US...Its not an accurate figure in $'s

No, theres no way I can try other peoples bikes, as theres no trials riders round here appart from 1 mate of mine, so Im stuck. The pashley is too short for me, Im quite tall and think its cramping me up too much

Why cant you ride street style on a modern comp style/shape bike? Hop up manuals, rail balance lines, bollard gaps, 180s, 180 ups, front wheel pivots, bunnyhops, thats what I ride. I mean why not, people say hoooo no you want a short frame for that. Im just considering a new frame but theres not many street style bikes out there, all the hype seems to be about the modern designs like Echo, ZOO, etc etc Trials in my opinion should not be pigeon holed into ' Street/bmx style and Strictly Comp style' Trials spans further than just 2 styles so I would have thought a new style bike would be good for anything and everything. Am I totally wrong and off the mark here or what? Anybody agree?

I have a pashley so a leeson would be pointless as its very similar, the more I consider what frame to get the more unsure I become

Can anybody tell me how much the CZAR Ivan frame is????? I like the look of it and maybe get 1...Although I ride street style...front wheels tricks, manuals etc so Im not quite sure if its suitable? Its here http://www.trialsin.com/sell/frames/czar/cframe.htm

hmm not sure, not that keen on them really, im getting frustrated now, I want a new frame but theres NOTHING out there suitable for me...JJJJJJEEEEEEEEEEEEESus ,I need some ideas Just saw pix of the new ADAMANT A1 in matt black......Woah....luks awesome! Probly no good for me thought, i duno http://www.trialsin.com/sell/frames/adamant/aframe.htm

Anybody got any ideas???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Look out Quincy and Columbo........

Bloody miles away mate, North West Cumbria.....bit damp here lately ha... WWW.KISSTHECHAINRING.COM Check it out, not a lot there....Sum shots of me surfing on fistral last month.....On the news page I like it! Nice bike...U think its any good for aggressive street.Spins, 180s 360s lmanuas, Ryan Leech type moves??? Because thats wat i ride. I just like the look of the toxsin, they look neat. Tidy welds etc cheers OH, the chainstays look meGA long...I guess the seat tube is offset.

il never buy another pashley because they have jerked me around so so much over the past few years and they have the very worst warranty policy i have ever known. Totally shite, anyway Echo pures look a bit cheapo??? I think Id wreck it. I dont wana spend a fortune, just looking at the zoo's etc and the prices have came right down so have the ashton frame. £300 should get a decent frame? Has to be TOUGH, I like the Norco Moment and also like the idea of sus forks but I think that would be even worse for me as its only 1017 long! A think a Curtis would be no diff to what I have now. There are 1020mm (22.5" TT) / 1035mm (23" TT) with 72 headangle. A Pashley 26mhz is 1030mm ish with a 72 head so pointless getting one really. The Norco wouldnt be either, shorter yes but same kinda shape, long stays and short front. 72 head angle. Im after sumet that feels fresh when I get on it and feels comfortable. Also the Curtis is £549 !!!!!!! OucH!

UPDATED BIKE WANTED...........DUNO WHICH ONE......... im 6'4 and hav rid a pashley since 2000....my 3rd......i broke 2 and am on my 3rd.... its is a very short bike for my height and i am considerin a change.... thinkin it may help me..... the short pashley might b cramping my style so to speak.....limiting me....i ride aggressive street style...kinda leech stuff.....manuals... 180s...360s....fast. technical.....etc.. im lookin at a bike that would be suitable...... i never even thought about wheelbases wen i got my pashley.... it was a trials bike and that was it..just ride... i never considered the wheelbase....until i saw these maD comp bikes popping up recently....the norco is even shorter so thats off the list...........Im after sumet a bit longer....thats strong.....that would giv me more room to move... i can get a really cheap echo pure...... or i like the new Toxsin ONE frames...duno if they r any good...just lookin for sumet longer..... with stays around 385mm and over... nothin crazy like 375mm!! any ideas......??????????? If you read my post bak to it.....my story is on there........But basically i want a new frame...

scary...started at 16 and now 22 ha.......Any ideas on what bike to get....I can get a cheap echo pure or im looking at these new toxsin one frames?? and good or a bit cheapo nastio????

sorry..... ere... im 6'4 and hav rid a pashley since 2000....my 3rd......i broke 2 and am on my 3rd.... its is a very short bike for my height and i am considerin a change.... thinkin it may help me..... the short pashley might b cramping my style so to speak.....limiting me....i ride aggressive street style...kinda leech stuff.....manuals... 180s...360s....fast. technical.....etc.. im lookin at a bike that would be suitable...... i never even thought about wheelbases wen i got my pashley.... it was a trials bike and that was it..just ride... i never considered the wheelbase....until i saw these maD comp bikes popping up recently....the norco is even shorter so thats off the list...........Im after sumet a bit longer....thats strong.....that would giv me more room to move... i can get a really cheap echo pure...... or i like the new Toxsin ONE frames...duno if they r any good...just lookin for sumet longer..... with stays around 385mm and over... nothin crazy like 375mm!! any ideas...... i actually wrote this reply out 5mins ago but wipd it so this version is actually diff 2wat i wanted to say but anywayz...........................

cheers mate.....I see wat u mean..i ACTUALLY used to think about trials all the time...looking at all kinds..as i drive by in the car....picking out lines as i go....all the time..but its been so long....I DONT anymore........ bugger....im NORMAL again ha.....felt weird not to just spot stuff auto wen i was riding all the time...it is coming bak now thought...but it has a few times over the past 2year.....ive tried to get bak a few times but because i cant do much i get FRUSTRATED.....and think fuk this im garn home...get nowhere.....i have problems with my body hurting when I ride......wrists...my ankle is fuked..i went down hard off a small drop wid my foot on the pedal...bent my knee with my foot on the pedal as normal....but my weight went down on it...and OUUUUCH now i get a sharp pain in the top of my ankle...lookin down as if u were standing up...look straight down...thats where its sore...inside though..... maybe sprained it bad..but i keep tweaking it when I ride...maybe i aint gave it long enough to heal..or watever..... im 6'4 and hav rid a pashley since 2000....my 3rd......i broke 2 and am on my 3rd.... its is a very shrt bike for my height and i am considerin a change.... thinkin it may help me..... the short pashley might b cramping my style so to speak.....limiting me....i ride aggressive street style...kinda leech stuff.....manuals... 180s...360s....fast...etc.. im lookin at a bike that would be suitable...... i never even thought about wheelbases wen i got my pashley.... it was a trials bike and that was it..just ride... i never considered the wheelbase....until i saw these maD comp bikes popping up.....Im after sumet a bit longer....thats strong.....that would giv me more room to move... i can get a really cheap echo pure...... or i like the new Toxsin ONE frames...duno if they r any good...just lookin for sumet longer..... with stays around 385mm and over... nothin crazy like 375mm!! any ideas...... i actually wrote this reply out 5mins ago but wipd it so this version is actually diff 2wat i wanted to say but anywayz...........................

My names steve irving, and........... Trials for me has been my passion for years since I was around 16 year old. Im now 22 and have not rid for almost 2years now. Ive been out on and off but lost the spark to go out and ride. I watched evolve, contact, revolution, kranked 3 etc until I wore them out, trials was everything to me. I did some comps and did ok but felt more at home practicing on my own. I just lost interest and now feel really kinda gutted that I "could" have been really great now. I got quite good and had practiced many many many hours........What Id like advise on is any possible reasons why this happens, being off the bike for so long and just not riding. Its costantly been on my mind like a splinter in my brain, it gets me really down that Im not as I used to be and dont ride like I did when I go out and try. I get back pains when I go out and try, my dad says because the muscles have wasted away because I have not done any full on excersise that trials gives for that long. I dont know how you can help but you being my idiol for so many years and looking up to you as a trials rider.......The easy answer i know is go out and ride but it just aint happened. Ive lost count of the amount of times Ive gone out determined and tried to get back into it, but no..........Im kinda ina mental block....I feel huge regret that its been so long off the bike, and a recurring thought of "Godsake I could have been awesome by now IF Id stuck at my riding" I just dont know what to do, I feel trials has moved on and left me behind and now Im too old to catch up.....................I turned 22 on june 5th and just dont have realistic hopes of being any good again and getting anywhere in trials...... Any comments, advise, comments, negative or positive Id appreciate it I had a stint back on it and started to get back in the groove but am still having bad back problems...Had physio a year ago...and STILL have bad problems....Doctors are fffkin useless.....Im FINALLY going for an xray tom at the hospital..the 1ST 1 Since I injured my back !!!!!! over a year and the doctors didnt send me for a xray after all this time.....bloody diabolical.......Im hoping nothing will show up....ie nothing wrong with the alignment etc..no disc problems..unless i will shit myself worrying........That will identify the problem as muscle damage as the physio said ages ago...... Im getting into power yoga now to build my strength and get supple..... Im confident it will really help me............ The END Steve www.kissthechainring.com any spelling mistakes.fu*k it.....cant b arsed readin it again