I have just been looking on the trials-uk website at the pads, and ive noticed that on just about every description it says "- Instant bite feeling, offering terrific braking power" which gives me just about no idea at all how differently each pad will perform and is probably less useful than if there was nothing at all written there as apposed to tarty where i feel as though im being given a less biased opinion on the pad. anyway my point and the point of this thread is dont take what you see written on that site to be entirely accurate, i have seen many products on that site where the description appears to be pure folly.