Conor the basher. Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Hey all Right so in the last few weeks ive been watching a lot of moto trials vids on boobtube ect and i am really intrested in having a go i havent really got much excperiance with motor bikes i can ride one though so basically im wanting to get cheap bike can anyone point me in the right direction and tell me some of the basic stuff is i hard to get used to the bike ect ...... how much will i be looking to pay for a cheap bike ? Cheers alll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!laycky! Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 There not that hard to ride ect. But money, they cost alot, my brother had one we both used to ride it and it cost like 20£ petrol everytime, 5£ at the most depending on where we was riding and then about 1,500£ for his bike and it was only a 50cc.(this was like 4 years ago)and are step dad had a 250cc montesa witch was about 3,500£. So it can cost alot.Hope i've helped.Laky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor the basher. Posted December 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Hmm i meah i wouldent mind a 50 how much would i bee looking for a cheap second hand one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rushton Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 £20 in petrol? thats alot, way more then what me and brother would use in a comp.Normaly we would take two bikes full of petrol, £7? then take a full can another £5 then that would last a day, or a comp. The bikes themselves cost about £3500 new, but if you get one seconde hand you could prob get a 2000-2004 about £1500, 2005-2006 £1600-£2200 2007-£2500.Thats a rough price range. Also you won't want anything less than a 125cc. Depending on how heavy/age you are thats what I would go off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenjenkins.klb. Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 There not that hard to ride ect. But money, they cost alot, my brother had one we both used to ride it and it cost like 20£ petrol everytime, 5£ at the most depending on where we was riding and then about 1,500£ for his bike and it was only a 50cc.(this was like 4 years ago)and are step dad had a 250cc montesa witch was about 3,500£. So it can cost alot.Hope i've helped.Lakythey're not that heavy on petrol. my gas gas 125 takes just over a half a can to fill it up and it only costs just over £5 to fill the can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 £20 a day for petrol on a 50cc, f**k right off. That should last you a good few days of riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2wtrials Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 A 1998 gasser txt will be about a grand or less... i have never used more than 5 litres riding a full day!!! It is in fact a cheaper sport than cycle trials!!! You lot pay about a grand for a complete bike and then some rip off prices for the parts that you break, and they break far more often and easier on the cycle stuff. Unless you are really unlucky you will perhaps bend a lever in a fairly big crash.The biggest drawback is bike transport... you either need a car with a towbar, a van or a Dad with one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom jersey Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Get a 125cc Gas Gas, best bike. Around £1000 would be good to spend to get an well looked after second hand trials bike for a learner. Remember to keep changing the oil regularly before it turns going brown change it when its still green/yellow etc. Always oil the chain before you go riding and change them once you have used for around seven events or more. Change the air filter or make sure it is clean before going out riding, remember to spray (air filter spray, cant remember name) on it so no crap like mud and stone can get into the engine etc. Grease all the nuts and bolts on the bike so they do not rust. Make sure no water goes into the engine etc and keep WD 40 off the discs etc and cleaners like that. Just a little intro in keeping it running well etc. Any more questions just ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rushton Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Get a 125cc Gas Gas, best bike. Around £1000 would be good to spend to get an well looked after second hand trials bike for a learner. Remember to keep changing the oil regularly before it turns going brown change it when its still green/yellow etc. Always oil the chain before you go riding and change them once you have used for around seven events or more. Change the air filter or make sure it is clean before going out riding, remember to spray (air filter spray, cant remember name) on it so no crap like mud and stone can get into the engine etc. Grease all the nuts and bolts on the bike so they do not rust. Make sure no water goes into the engine etc and keep WD 40 off the discs etc and cleaners like that. Just a little intro in keeping it running well etc. Any more questions just ask.125 gasgas have been shite since 2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2wtrials Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 The best for championship stuff... revs like mad. But possibly not the best to start with... mind you i am biased, got to be a Beta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom jersey Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 125 gasgas have been shite since 2002What the FOOK are you on about when Gas Gas is pretty much the leading bike, whats better?, ummm a sherco...NO they dont have as much power compared to the Gas Gas, a Beta............ NO there well made but are shit compared to a Gas Gas. How can you say they have been shit since 2002, do you ride trials? if yes you are probably being biased because you have a bloody 1998 Beta, f**kING TWAT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Tupman Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 What the FOOK are you on about when Gas Gas is pretty much the leading bike, whats better?, ummm a sherco...NO they dont have as much power compared to the Gas Gas, a Beta............ NO there well made but are shit compared to a Gas Gas. How can you say they have been shit since 2002, do you ride trials? if yes you are probably being biased because you have a bloody 1998 Beta, f**kING TWAT.Ok chill out!!This is my veiw on the whole thing, your a new rider so your not going to really feel the difference between any of the bikes. What you want is something at a resonable price thats going to have good durabilty even after so many years of use.You want something thats older than 2000 to keep the cost down at this age of bike you've basically got a choice of a few makes, BETA, GAS GAS, MONTESA, SCORPA and SHERCO. Now for this age bike you don't really want a Scorpa or Montesa as they only come in a 250 model and would be to much for a novice if your not that big. Sherco's were in their first year of production in 1999 (i think!) these early bikes were pretty good at the time but that havent faired well and will proberly leave you with more costs to repair.Thats leaves you with Beta and Gas Gas now i've been a massive Beta fan for a long time now they are very well built bikes and are proven to be brillient on the national and world scene. Gas Gas's are great bikes light and revy not quite as well built as the Beta but still a good bike.I would get Trials and Motorcross news (weekly newspaper) and look through the adds in the back and try to find somthing within your price range. Remember you need a helmet and some boots aswell.Hope i've helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 All depends on your price budget. You can pick up an 03-04 model 125 for around £800-£1300 on ebay. I wouldn't really suggest any more than a 125 at this time as you would need to adjust to the power and clutch etc. I would go for a more modern bike over an older one as they are 10 times easier to ride. I came off an aprilia 125 (1981) to a Scorpa 125 (2003) and the difference is massive (both four stroke). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor the basher. Posted December 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 (edited) Right im deffo after a second hand bike not a brand new one and can someone post link up i dnt relise they where going to be so excpensive i was looking to spend around 500 but i see thats not really going to happen Oh im about 5ft 10 and weight about 12 cound i not get a 50 ? Edited December 28, 2007 by Conor the basher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Winton. Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Right im deffo after a second hand bike not a brand new one and can someone post link up i dnt relise they where going to be so excpensive i was looking to spend around 500 but i see thats not really going to happen Oh im about 5ft 10 and weight about 12 cound i not get a 50 ?50 is childs bike sort of thing mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Right im deffo after a second hand bike not a brand new one and can someone post link up i dnt relise they where going to be so excpensive i was looking to spend around 500 but i see thats not really going to happen Oh im about 5ft 10 and weight about 12 cound i not get a 50 ?50 hasnt got enough power for you really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor the basher. Posted December 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Fair enough ill have a look about see what i can find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rushton Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 What the FOOK are you on about when Gas Gas is pretty much the leading bike, whats better?, ummm a sherco...NO they dont have as much power compared to the Gas Gas, a Beta............ NO there well made but are shit compared to a Gas Gas. How can you say they have been shit since 2002, do you ride trials? if yes you are probably being biased because you have a bloody 1998 Beta, f**kING TWAT.Yep I do ride Mototrials thanks. And I have a 07 Beta and a 06 GasGas, Both 250 though, and imo GasGas are S**t after 2002, I've seen sooo many blow up. Must be at least 4 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Wilson Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 I would get a gasgas 125cc i had one.. gave up because of other commitments... i sold mine on ebay for around £900 it was in really good condition and was a 2002 txt pro... GasGas's are really light and great if you are just starting, !do not! get an old sherco as my mate had to replace all the bearings and seals... Although some of the gasgas's have a touchy gearbox and can be fidly to fix.. really great fun wanting to start again when i am older! ste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom jersey Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Yep I do ride Mototrials thanks. And I have a 07 Beta and a 06 GasGas, Both 250 though, and imo GasGas are S**t after 2002, I've seen sooo many blow up. Must be at least 4 now.I have an 07 Gas Gas, best bike i have ever had and the best bike around!. They are blatantly not shit after 2002, So you are saying the 2002 model is better than the 03,04,05,06,07 and now 08. Do not think so my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rushton Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 I have an 07 Gas Gas, best bike i have ever had and the best bike around!. They are blatantly not shit after 2002, So you are saying the 2002 model is better than the 03,04,05,06,07 and now 08. Do not think so my friend.Yes i am and is yours a 125? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 I have an 07 Gas Gas, best bike i have ever had and the best bike around!. They are blatantly not shit after 2002, So you are saying the 2002 model is better than the 03,04,05,06,07 and now 08. Do not think so my friend.You can't really say they are the best bike around can you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Tupman Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 (edited) I have an 07 Gas Gas, best bike i have ever had and the best bike around!. They are blatantly not shit after 2002, So you are saying the 2002 model is better than the 03,04,05,06,07 and now 08. Do not think so my friend.Ok fair enough there good bikes but come on the best bikes!! Do you enjoy having to re-shim your clutch after every 4 trials, the gearbox which who know which direction is could go in, to lovely linkages on the rear suspension that rattle themselves to peices. No doubt they're good bikes but with that amount of up keep they not the best. Edited December 28, 2007 by Matt_Tupman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Isn't there a mototrials forum you could take your argument to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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