SuperDeathMonkey Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 My echo brake is super spongy and need to bleed it. However the bleed bolt is rounded and i need some ideas on how to get the bolt out.cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcinnes Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Have you got a torx key ( the right size ) ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDeathMonkey Posted April 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 It doesn't look like it needs a torx key. i thought it just needed a 3mm allen key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam-Griffin Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Mine has done the same on my Maggy I use a screwdriver thats a little bit too big and just gently tap it in with a hammer Alternatively, put the key in and lean it on the side really hard and turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDeathMonkey Posted April 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 cheers for advice. i tried the screwdriver thing but it doesn't really work that well the screw just seems to be soft metal, any other ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 cheers for advice. i tried the screwdriver thing but it doesn't really work that well the screw just seems to be soft metal, any other ideas.here is a thought, I'd use it as a last resort though.When I have ripped off the barrel adjuster from a mech I've got it out by tapping in an alan key and using that to undo the remaining part of the adjuster. You could possibly to the same by drilling a hole into the grub screw then tapping in an alan key thats about the same size as the hole and use that to undo the grub nut. If you decide on this though, first find out whats exactly behind the grub screw so you know if its a definate bad idea. Secondly try drilling the hole in a bit of scrap metal and tapping the alan key into that just to be sure it can be done with your allan key/drill bit combination.like I said though, last resort, and if it goes pete tong, then consider this a disclamer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossMcd Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 do a bath bleed but instead of taking the bleed bolts off take the cables off that is how I do my front brake as my slave bolt is rounded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDeathMonkey Posted April 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 (edited) When I have ripped off the barrel adjuster from a mech I've got it out by tapping in an alan key and using that to undo the remaining part of the adjuster. You could possibly to the same by drilling a hole into the grub screw then tapping in an alan key thats about the same size as the hole and use that to undo the grub nut. If you decide on this though, first find out whats exactly behind the grub screw so you know if its a definate bad idea. Secondly try drilling the hole in a bit of scrap metal and tapping the alan key into that just to be sure it can be done with your allan key/drill bit combination.cheers it may resort to that, ill start to compare sizes in scrap metal to make sure. see how it goes.do a bath bleed but instead of taking the bleed bolts off take the cables off thumbsupanim.gifI wanted to bleed with oil because apparantly echo brakes leak with a water bleed.thanks for the help Edited April 24, 2008 by coolest monkey around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Clarke Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 I have the same problem with a rotar bolt. I had an idea the other day but it may not work with a bleed bolt.Get a hack saw and cut along the top, then get a flat piece of metal, wedge it in and try and turn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 I'd get a pair of mole grips on it and try to get it off. If that doesn't work, file two flats on the edge and try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty221pr Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Dunno wat size the bolt is but u can buy extracters, drill down the bolt wack the extracter in, its opposite thread, tightens up n wips the bolts out Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NileBrown™ Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 I have the same problem with a rotar bolt. I had an idea the other day but it may not work with a bleed bolt.Get a hack saw and cut along the top, then get a flat piece of metal, wedge it in and try and turn it.Wouldnt work mate, the bolt is sunk below the metal so you would have to cut into the lever before you can get access to the bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Wouldnt work mate, the bolt is sunk below the metal so you would have to cut into the lever before you can get access to the bolt.Now there in lies the problem, he didn't say whether it was the lever bleed bolt, or the slave one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NileBrown™ Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Now there in lies the problem, he didn't say whether it was the lever bleed bolt, or the slave one...Ahh touché... muel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenJJ Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 You could try superglueing an allen key into the bolt and then just turn it out. Never tried this my self but heard it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 (edited) It doesn't look like it needs a torx key. i thought it just needed a 3mm allen key.Now there in lies the problem, he didn't say whether it was the lever bleed bolt, or the slave one...Not obvious from that? I'm not to sure what you can do, maybe find an imperial sized allen key thats just a bit bigger then tap that into the grub bolt and untwist it? You could possably drill it out with a 2mm drill bit and then use a small flat head to undo it. Edited April 26, 2008 by Mr Fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Here is an idea get soem chemical metal put it in the hole and then whack in the allan key let it set then take it out but you will need a new bleed screw but it should take it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16 years later Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Hi i have a echo brake to. You could try to weld or solder an allen key in the bolt. Then put a new bolt in after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 go buy a magura i personally would just ram something in until it grips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sixstreet Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Dunno wat size the bolt is but u can buy extracters, drill down the bolt wack the extracter in, its opposite thread, tightens up n wips the bolts out Sam.Ezy-out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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