gu trials Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 which are the loudest hs33 brake pads i can get for a try all smooth rim and that hold the best ? for dry weather ? and a set for wet weather ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 plaz crm on smooth for drycoust for grind in wet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollo you ball-bag Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 why does everyone want the loudest. surely a good bite, lock and hold are the first thing you should be looking for. personally i'd be looking for the quitest pads, with, a good, lock hold and bite, as i feel a right tard biking down the main shopping road in skegness, having to slow down because some holiday maker scum walks out infront of you, when i'm on the road, and i have to break with a big f**k off screech. everyone turns around and stares at you. you can see the look on that fit blonde with the nice arse and cracking tits's face, as if to say what a tw*t. sorry rant over.quiet brakes are the way forwards. i can see it. crystal ball and all that shizz.on the other hand plazmatic crm's are good on a smooth rim. as are heatsink snowys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 If you want the loudest brake setup try superstar red blocks on a heavy grind on both ends. Stops well, holds well and is completely deafening - that's what I use and the noise is why I've now bought a disk for the front... I'm giving an ORO K18 a try in 160mm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 As your asking for a smooth rim, arent the zoo pads supposed to be good? Doubt you'll get a screech as big as a pad with a grind though. Maybe some tar will help your braking performance too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z o o !! Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Plaz + Smooth rim + little dab of tar = The loudest/best brake ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 SNOWIES + Smooth rim + little dab of tar = The loudest/best brake ever.;]Matx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8grumble Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 coust on a grind.... and tryall smooth rims... dont wrok very well. i have used echo rims with plaz amazing.... but smooth tryall on plaz...was shit, just had no bite... but tryall rims with grinds....blooody good.got some video clips to prove it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Clayton Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 plaz crm on smooth for drycoust for grind in wethe's said all you need to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Plaz Any pads + Smooth rim + little dab of tar = A good brake on street in dry and clean conditions but totally useless for anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 best magura pads are them ones in a vee backing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gu trials Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 i have never really seen a tryall smooth rim work before or any pictures of them or out so i am thinking about an echo rim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Trials 31 Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Any pads on a smooth rim that work good in wet and dry? Man, I hope so. If not somebody needs to get designing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim/Trialsin USA Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 (edited) That statement contained in post #10 is a bout as ill informing and off the mark as one could get. I am surprised Adam. But thanks for the jab so I can set the record straight.The LARGEST DIFFERENCE between pad compounds is in the circumstance of a smooth (reletively clean) rim. Why/how is this? Because the LEAST AMMOUNT OF OUTSIDE INFLUENCE (i.e. grind) is clouding the ability of the compound to interact (i.e. grip) with the rim. Plazmatic CRM pads without a doubt are the grippiest pad on a smooth rim. It is what they were designed for (as opposed to color choice from the Barradine catalogue). Because I say so? Of course not, I do not have that kind of ego. But at this point I will have to beg off on revealing the proprietary testing/data, as it is what keeps Plazmatic CRMs well ahead. Tar can ad to grip (though definatly NOT in wet situations!), but it does not change the difference in performance from from one pad to another.Heavy Grind situations have the LEAST VARIANCE in braking power between pads. Why/how is this? Pretty obvious, the TEXTURE is what is causing a good bit of the braking power. The compound in this situation is less important.Brakes are a technology driven performance item (unlike, say grips which are tactile). In the end the clip type and ammount of text alotted to a description on an order page do not slow/stop a bike. Edited July 19, 2008 by Tim/Trialsin USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Strange, when I used Magura black pads on a smooth rim with tar they were 'good' (locked the wheel effectively in dry and clean conditions), and on a grind they were pretty poor.Since the tar doesn't actually allow the pad to touch the rim, all pads are the same when used with tar surely? (Which is what my post stated) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 stuffI think what you are trying to say is, "grind your rim and it doesnt matter"... so theres your answer mr topic starter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 *stuff*I'm pretty sure Adam wasn't taking a cheap shot at Plazzie pads, seems to me like that's how you read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 I'm pretty sure Adam wasn't taking a cheap shot at Plazzie pads, seems to me like that's how you read it.Yeah definitely not... I always seem to get pounded by Tim for making posts in pad topics, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 (edited) Yeah definitely not... I always seem to get pounded by Tim for making posts in pad topics, lol.i think tim @ plazmatic takes alot of things you say the wrong way to be honest, just something i have noticed in a couple of topicsto be honest adam, i would not take your advice anyway, i mean its not like you own the most successful trials shop in the UK / possibly the world, surely you know nothing?/sarcasm*do i get a bonus now, for being a suck arse Edited July 21, 2008 by ben_travis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason222 Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 That statement contained in post #10 is a bout as ill informing and off the mark as one could get. I am surprised Adam. But thanks for the jab so I can set the record straight.Are you this big of a douche in person as well? I'll be sure never to buy anything from your shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim/Trialsin USA Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Yes, it is the vast right wing Plazmatic conspiracy looming dark on the horizon..............be wary..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Grow the f**k up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanie-b Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Grow the f**k upSeconded.Would you talk to your customers with the same mouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Oooohh... The word I set to 'strikethrough' was 'Plaz'. That's where this has come about from!Tim, it could have been any pad manufacturer and I would have done the same... the point was that it's the tar that's making the brake work in the stated situation (not that Plaz are crap... far from it in fact, I would run them myself if discs weren't loads better ). Sorry for the misunderstanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 To be fair, i don't know how he got it as mis-construed as that. Its pretty clear what you meant adam I never thought for one minute that you were throwing in a jibe at plazzies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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