Mat Smith!! Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Why arn't there anymore?The longest you can get atm is like 1025, why not make frames with longer wheelbase? And like every mod frame out atm has above 60bb height, why?I want 1030-1040 with 50-55bb rise and 360ish stays, why is there NO frames like this anymore?Pref a strong, un-flexy frame aswell.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Powell Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Short is the new long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Because they've finally realised they can't compete with the Zip, so they make half-longs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cox. Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 cos every frame is crap now, fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt man t Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) the gu tp 08 is 1030+55 ? Edited June 14, 2009 by stunt man t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith!! Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) Short is the new long.But it's not, ive got a 1005 with 60+bb frame and I HATE it , I can't even replace it with a frame geo that I like, and I don't want to go stock again.Can you even buy Zips anymore? lolthe gu tp 08 is 1030+55 ? People who just ride around the street manage to snap them on the downtube, so no thanks. Edited June 14, 2009 by Mat Smith!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Yeh, I think supercycles still sell them?I thought you were getting one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunt man t Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Can you even buy Zips anymore? lolsuper cycles still sell them £189 for silver version£159 grey version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith!! Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Yeh, I think supercycles still sell them?I thought you were getting one?Meh, kinda do but I'd like more choice to be honest . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Unless you can find an 04 python, stop whinging and buy it!If I got another mod it would have to be another Zona, the lightest one ever of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Instead of looking at the wheelbase, why don't you have a look at reach. Wheelbase means nothing, it's used to compare frames for no apparent reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale-Hill Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Mat find a A3 and don't snap it and your sorted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith!! Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) Unless you can find an 04 python, stop whinging and buy it!If I got another mod it would have to be another Zona, the lightest one ever of course. Lmao, yeah but theres like 15 mod frames out atm what you can buy, and all of them except one is below 10250 and has +60bb which is ridic, why can't deng just make normal frames again? we asked for an 04 python, so he did, and he changed it to 1020... LOL nice one.I want 05 python geo, in long and short but with built in boosters..Silly trials bikes ehhhhhhInstead of looking at the wheelbase, why don't you have a look at reach. Wheelbase means nothing, it's used to compare frames for no apparent reason.Yeah suppose, but most of them are still pretty short, any good examples? I dont really want an xtp btw.Mat find a A3 and don't snap it and your sorted!TRRRRRRYINNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG =[ . Edited June 14, 2009 by Mat Smith!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike W Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Instead of looking at the wheelbase, why don't you have a look at reach. Wheelbase means nothing, it's used to compare frames for no apparent reason.Wrong.ofcourse it makes a difference a bike which is long with long reach is going to ride longer than a bike which is short with long reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdoku Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Lmao, yeah but theres like 15 mod frames out atm what you can buy, and all of them except one is below 10250 and has +60bb which is ridic, why can't deng just make normal frames again? we asked for an 04 python, so he did, and he changed it to 1020... LOL nice one.I want 05 python geo, in long and short but with built in boosters..Silly trials bikes ehhhhhhYeah suppose, but most of them are still pretty short, any good examples? I dont really want an xtp btw.TRRRRRRYINNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG =[ .Still not long enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith!! Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Still not long enough?1020 isn't really long enough no, because my python was 1050, and 04 pythons can go up to 1060, I just prefer riding a barge than a bmx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmackay Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Just get forks with a verrry big angle on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Powell Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) Dengs looked at his target market this time, hes seen theres a demand for lighter parts, He brought them out, Hes seen theres a demand for short frames, he brought them out. You and a few others are a minority who want long frames. Shit happens, Im affraid. Edited June 14, 2009 by Connor Powell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith!! Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) Dengs looked at his target market this time, hes seen theres a demand for lighter parts, He brought them out, Hes seen theres a demand for short frames, he brought them out. You and a few others are a minority who want long frames. Shit happens, Im affraid.Do you not think there is enough short frames atm? he brings out a long and a short, short being 995 long being 1015 or something stupid?Didn't see what was wrong with 1005 and 1035 to be honest. Edited June 14, 2009 by Mat Smith!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Wrong.ofcourse it makes a difference a bike which is long with long reach is going to ride longer than a bike which is short with long reach.Well yes, but if you're only concerned with wheelbase and not reach, why not just bend your fork or get ones with massive rake? Most people looking for a long frame don't want their front wheel to stick out 10ft in front of their bars, they want more space for their body. Unless for the last 9 years I've been missing the whole point of having long and short frames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith!! Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Well yes, but if you're only concerned with wheelbase and not reach, why not just bend your fork or get ones with massive rake? Most people looking for a long frame don't want their front wheel to stick out 10ft in front of their bars, they want more space for their body. Unless for the last 9 years I've been missing the whole point of having long and short frames.Well, I like to ride long wheelbase bikes, theres obviously some reason they was made, else everybike would be 1000 but with long or short reach, so, is there any frames with a longer reach than a skateboard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will4eva7k Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 my python measures out to be 1040, i think it its an 04 model (so far back i dont remember, nor have i ridden it in the last 2 years)pretty sure its the craig lee scott sig model, the yao zhi one would have been 1000 or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I just checked and it seems that newest Ozonys frame is what you want?Since when was 1000+ mods normal though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith!! Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I just checked and it seems that newest Ozonys frame is what you want?Since when was 1000+ mods normal though?Yeah there alright, except the fact there 450 quid, and theres only 1 person I know with one, and not likely to sell for any cheaper than I could get a brand new frame lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Trials 31 Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Long A3? Some places still have those. I love mine, but I'll part with it if you'll pay extra for shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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