jodymillhouse Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Hey guys, i was riding my trials suited bike today, and realised that you cannot actually bunny-hop American style, and on street bikes you can. I know this has stuff to do with the geometry, but what exactly makes a street bikes geometry suited to the riding style? I'm guessing this has something to do with the head-tube angle and stem geometry? But im not sure Would be great if someone could help me out here, cheers Jody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 mainly wheelbase, bb hight and a short and low stem make it streety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raoulduke Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hi, A good street bike would have a shorter wheelbase, steeper headtube angle, and a lower bottom bracket. Trials style frames tend to take these to extremes when compared to the rest of the Mountain Biking world. Mainly to cater for the large amount of time spent on the back wheel in trials. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hi, A good street bike would have a shorter wheelbase, steeper headtube angle, and a lower bottom bracket. Trials style frames tend to take these to extremes when compared to the rest of the Mountain Biking world. Mainly to cater for the large amount of time spent on the back wheel in trials. Cheers. longer wheelbase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 longer wheelbase shorter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh barker Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 i thought it was longer, i was going from what i feel more comfortable on when riding street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Am I right in guessing your idea of street is sidehops and gaps? For bunnyhopping, spinny street, a shorter bike is the way to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 i was riding my trials suited bike today, and realised that you cannot actually bunny-hop American style What is american style? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualjoe Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 A Macey hop, as opposed to a european style hop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4stars Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 im lost...what is the difference between them? im guessing one is lifting both wheels up at the same time.....the other lifting the front then the rear? (i didnt realise the first was a bunny hop if so) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 A Macey hop, as opposed to a european style hop. A what?? Where are these names coming from? A bunny hop is pulling up on the bars, then lifting the pedals under you without a pedal stroke. This has been the case since, well, forever. Back in the BMX days I guess in the 80s? Hopping on the spot, lifting both wheels at the same time is just 'a hop'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualjoe Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Apparently, from being told back in the day, an american dude called Macey was the first guy to do a bunnyhop. At that time, everyone in europe was trying to jump both wheels up at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4stars Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 (edited) does anyone try jumping with both wheels at the same time these days?* *edit - on purpose, rather than possibly during the learning curve of bunny hopping Edited July 10, 2010 by chris4stars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Apparently, from being told back in the day, an american dude called Macey was the first guy to do a bunnyhop. I've *never* heard that in 15 years of trials riding, and 20 years of being into cycling... It also doesn't show up on Google. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hi, A good street bike would have a shorter wheelbase, steeper headtube angle, and a lower bottom bracket. Trials style frames tend to take these to extremes when compared to the rest of the Mountain Biking world. Mainly to cater for the large amount of time spent on the back wheel in trials. Cheers. Not if you want it to spin well - lower BBs make things nicer if you're only going in straight lines as they're nice and stable, but if you want a flickier, twitchier (aka spinnier) bike, you'll be wanting a slightly higher BB. Not +65 or whatever, but if you look at BMXs and other bikes that are designed specifically to be good at hops, spins and tricks you'll see they've gotten progressively higher BBs over the past few years. Obviously street MTBs don't, but that's primarily because MTBing is always at least 3-4 years behind BMX This was by Mark, just using Adam's computer at the mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raoulduke Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Not if you want it to spin well - lower BBs make things nicer if you're only going in straight lines as they're nice and stable, but if you want a flickier, twitchier (aka spinnier) bike, you'll be wanting a slightly higher BB. Not +65 or whatever, but if you look at BMXs and other bikes that are designed specifically to be good at hops, spins and tricks you'll see they've gotten progressively higher BBs over the past few years. Obviously street MTBs don't, but that's primarily because MTBing is always at least 3-4 years behind BMX This was by Mark, just using Adam's computer at the mo Well, you learn something new everyday! Cheers Mark. So... Short Wheelbase, steep headtube angle, and high bottom bracket. I'm guessing +20mm to +40mm is ideal then as +65mm is a bit too much? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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